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Another overrun at TEB

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I have heard that about Falcon before. I talked to a crew from a large bank who operated a Falcon 2000. They had a part of some sort fail on the nosegear. Falcons response to the owners of the under warranty aircraft was " That part can not fail"
 
Change of runway

Listening to the ATC tape its interesting that the Falcon crew were the only crew that requested a different runway in the 30 minute clip I listened to then were asked to keep it in tight.

I heard over a NBAA site a crew waiting to take off observed the Falcon on approach actually considered evasive action on the ground as the falcon approach was making the nervous and they weren't sure if the aircraft was going to make the runway. Keep in mind except for ATC tapes this is third hand information
 
Falcon Operator: "Sir, we have a broken (fill in the blank). We were in cruise and started a descent when it went 'POW'. We got (associated warning and indication. It os broken."

Dassault Rep: "But misseur zet iz imposseeebuhhl."

Falcon Operator: "Impossible? The damned thing is broken!"

Dassault Rep: "But misseur zee airplen eez not deeeezigned to break zeees way!"

:)
 
sydeseet said:
Oh boy, it would appear that a well-known, much admired flight department from the midwest had a bad day. I'm only going off of the above audio clip but if the tail number indicated is correct than this is the aircraft:

http://www.planespotting.net/R_N973M.html

I'm glad that everyone is okay!:)

Yep, you are correct. Motorola's Falcon 900.

Regis#: 973M
Make/Model: F900 Description: FALCON 900, MYSTÈRE 900
Date: 03/03/2006
Time: 1910
Event Type: Incident
Highest Injury: None
Mid Air: N
Missing: N
Damage: Unknown
LOCATION City: TETERBORO State: NJ Country:
USDESCRIPTION ACFT ON LANDING, VEERED OFF THE END OF THE RUNWAY, TETERBORO, NJ
INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0 # Crew: 2 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Pass: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
 
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NTSB Identification: NYC06IA075
14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation
Incident occurred Friday, March 03, 2006 in Teterboro, NJ
Aircraft: Dassault Aviation Falcon 900EX, registration: N973M
Injuries: 3 Uninjured.
This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may contain errors. Any errors in this report will be corrected when the final report has been completed.
On March 3, 2006, about 1415 eastern standard time, a Dassault Aviation Falcon 900EX, N973M, sustained minor damage during a landing overrun at Teterboro Airport (TEB), Teterboro, New Jersey. The certificated airline transport rated flight crew and one passenger were not injured. Visual meteorological conditions prevailed and an instrument flight rules flight plan had been filed for the flight that departed Palwaukee Municipal Airport (PWK), Wheeling, Illinois. The business flight was conducted under 14 CFR Part 91.

According to the flight crew, the airplane departed and proceeded to TEB uneventfully. The airplane was initially cleared for the instrument landing system approach to runway 6. However, after a wind check reported winds from 290 degrees at 10 knots. The flight crew requested and received clearance to land on runway 24, a 6,013-foot-long, 150-foot-wide, asphalt runway. Due to the wind conditions, the flight crew added 10 knots, to their landing approach speed of 120 knots. Shortly prior to touchdown, the control tower reported the winds from 290 degrees at 15 knots, gusting to 20 knots. Both pilots reported that the airplane touched down on the runway centerline, "close to" or "within" the touchdown landing zone. The thrust reverser was deployed and the flight crew initially felt the sensation of braking; however, as the airplane continued down the runway, the braking action seemed less effective.

The airplane departed the end of the runway, and came to rest in mud, about 330 feet from the end of the runway. Tire marks consistent with the airplane's tires were observed to begin about 1,000 feet prior to the end of the runway. The airplane sustained damage to the landing gear assemblies, and the right outboard slat.

Examination of the airplane did not reveal any pre-incident mechanical malfunctions. Nor did the pilots report any.

Post-incident friction tests conducted on runway 24, by airport personnel, revealed friction levels above the threshold, which would have required the issue of a notice to airmen.

The pilot flying, who was seated in the left seat, estimated that he had accumulated about 6,500 hours of total flight experience, which included about 1,200 combined hours in the Falcon 50 and 900EX airplanes.

The pilot seated in the right seat, was the designated pilot-in-command for the flight. He estimated that he had accumulated about 11,000 hours of total flight experience, which included about 2,000 hours in the Falcon 900EX.

Several witnesses at the airport reported that they observed the airplane touch down about halfway down runway 24.

The airplane was equipped with a cockpit voice recorder (CVR) and flight data recorder (FDR), which were retained and forwarded to the NTSB Vehicle Recorders Laboratory, Washington, District of Columbia. Preliminary information from the FDR revealed that the airplane's airspeed just prior to touchdown was about 130 knots, and the ground speed just after touchdown was about 120 knots. The airplane's ground roll was about 2,900 feet from the main landing gear weight-on-wheel switch activation, until it came to rest.

A weather observation taken after the incident reported the winds from 330 degrees, at 19 knots, gusting to 26 knots.
 

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