ANONYMOUS MODERATOR, please explain...

[banned username 1]

Hey Guys,

I don't know which of us is moving the things around, but I can tell you that the Moderators try their best without any agendas that I know about. This issue is actually refreshing since it doesn't have to do with avitars, potty language, flame-baters, etc. Thanks!

Anyway, you make some good points, what given the state of the industry right now- there's not really a lot of interviewing going on. I know that this board is Mark's pride and joy and he's put his soul into making it what it is. I'm sure he'll take all of the suggestions under advisement. Just in case he doesn't catch this thread, if you have a suggestion, please contact him.

In some respects, it's your board too and within certain constraints should be what you want it to be too.

Cheers,
UAL78
Moderator

 

[Laughing_Jakal]

Thanks UAL

My only remark is that IN A LOT OF RESPECTS IT IS OUR BOARD TOO. If we all took our ball and went home...it would be pretty hard to sell advertising with no hits on the board. I would think Mark would be more than "pretty responsive" to what the users of this board want.

No User's no board
No Board....user's go somewhere else.

 

[banned username 1]

You're welcome! But I thought that's what I just said

UAL78

 

[Laughing_Jakal]

No...you said

"In some respects, it's your board too and within certain constraints should be what you want it to be too."

My emphasis added

 

[USMCFDX]

With FedEx on this board for years why did it all of the sudden need to be moved is the biggest question?

 

[Neal]

no clue

Man, I go away on a 4 day trip and all heck lets loose! I have no idea why or who moved the threads....but it seems to have really caused some debate. My guess is that it was just a mistake somehow as none of the moderators are out there to get anybody or cause any trouble.

As UAL78 mentioned...send me a suggestion ([email protected]) I almost always take them and try to get it added to the site. The site is the largest aviation site on the internet in terms of hits and users....so we have a good thing going here and I would like to keep it the leading place for us pilots to hang out! If you guys want a lounge board....I can do that no problem.

Boy would I like to get rid of the advertisers.....slows things down and takes up space (just a pain in the butt)......but somehow this has got to support itself. Maybe a user fee is the answer and remove all the advertisers...I don't know but something has to support it as my little corporate job can't do it.

Anyway, Sorry about the FEDEX cargo thing.....I'll try to figure out what happened.

Mark - Webmaster

 

[USNFDX]

Furlough the Moderator

This is the PM I received from Bill Molestar........He did it .......He is the Idiot I was Refering to......He should be Furloughed as a Moderator!


FedEx Bid Move

"Don't sweat the move to the Cargo Board - it's nothing personal against you or FedEx. It's a move to make it more likely to be read by a new-comer.

Those who log onto the board frequently (more than once a day), use the "New Posts" function to scan for updates; they rarely use the categories. Placing your post in another category didn't reduce the number of "regulars" who read it.

When those who are new to the board or who log on infrequently think cargo, they think FedEx (which is a good thing!). They don't know or care about the dollar amount distinctions that make up the various categories.

Again, nothing personal.
__________________
Bill

I wish you success!"

 

[banned username 1]

Public Posting of Private Messages

Just to change the subject slightly....

Could we talk about Private Messaging for just a moment? I always am a bit hesitant about sending somebody a private message for just the above situation. People take these messages occasionally, and up on the board they go. Not that there's any sort of secret back-channel stuff going on, but somethimes when someone wants to say something to you in private rather than posting it for the world to see, it should be kept private- whatever the contents.

I don't know if you're teasing about "Furloughing the Moderator" or not. Your post isn't really that clear. It's obvious that Bill had no information that couldn't be shared with anyone or everyone, but I really do think that whatever is said to somebody in a PM should not be re-posted in a public section of any forum. It just seems like bad form to me.

With that being said, sometimes when somebody wants an answer or a clarification etc. from me, I often can't give the person a complete and candid response that they're looking for because you never know when it's going to be posted in a public place to be used for whatever agenda the recipient may have.

I guess what I'm asking, shouldn't a Private Message remain private between the two individuals?

I think I'm going to start putting a caveat on the bottom of my messages saying that if mine are reposted, it's a Penalty Box offense simply for bad manners.

As always, I welcome your thoughts.

Thanks,
UAL78
Moderator

 

[USNFDX]

UAL78 and Bill


First of all, nobody should ever take what I say too seriously! I'm sure Bill is not an idiot, and I would never wish furlough on anyone. There was nothing of a personal nature in the PM . It does answer the original question posted by the author of thread. That is why I posted it. I, as many others disagree with his answer. I was hoping Bill would have responded to this thread himself. I apologize to anyone who's feelings I may hurt. Over and Out!

 

[TonyC]

Just to change the subject slightly....

Could we talk about Private Messaging for just a moment?

..., sometimes when somebody wants an answer or a clarification etc. from me, I often can't give the person a complete and candid response that they're looking for because you never know when it's going to be posted in a public place ...


... simply for bad manners.

As always, I welcome your thoughts.

Thanks,
UAL78
Moderator

Well, here's my thoughts. Posting PMs on a public forum is bad manners. So is calling the moderator an ugly name. We're gonna take USNFDX behind the woodshed pretty soon and have a come-to-Jesus meetin' with him. Sometimes you have to excuse the Navy types - - something about hot-bunking that just messes 'em up for life. Anyway...

FedEx threads have existed peacefully on the Majors board for quite some time. No confusion to newcomers has ever been evident to us. Many, many FedEx threads remained on the Majors board even after the famous Bid thread started getting moved around. Nobody reported the thread to a moderator to complain it was out of place, it was simply the arbitrary decision of a moderator, and no explanation was given.

Do I know all of the above for a fact? No, and I'd be thrilled if someone were to step up to the microphone and explain it some other way.

Five days ago we asked for an explanation. None has been forthcoming. That is, in my opinion, bad manners. And lame. And weak- ... ooops - - now, USNFDX is about to rub off on me.

I don't understand why the Moderator that did the deed couldn't step out and explain his actions. Give us something to work with here. Anything...

 

[USMCFDX]

My $.02:

Why is the moderator who moved the threads the one who hasn't posted when others have, Mark and UAL78?
If you send it over the net expect it to go public. I'm sure Jack Lewis does with his e-mails to the FedEx pilots, and rightly so. We post it here for others to read to find out what is going on, USNFDX did the same with Bill's PM since he would not explain in a public forum.
If it wasn't broke why fix it? Glad we will be back to the status quo.

Now someone else kick this dead horse.

 

[klhoard]

Hey, have you guys heard the Jet Blue pilots have to clean the cabins of their airplanes between flights??
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[TonyC]

Hey, have you guys heard the Jet Blue pilots have to clean the cabins of their airplanes between flights??

Don't you?



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[klhoard]

Yes, I have done a few RFO trips already. . . .
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[TonyC]

Yes, I have done a few RFO trips already. . . .

350 for 20 minutes - - would you like your dinner roll warmed, sir?

 

[banned username 1]

I don't know, and I'm just spitballin' here, but maybe he was working.

UAL78

 

[klhoard]

350 for 20 minutes - - would you like your dinner roll warmed, sir?

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You don't want to know how I warm those rolls, do you??

 

[TonyC]

This message has been deleted by UAL78.

Now, UAL78, that's not very nice! The rest of us common folk can't do that. We have to live with the posts we make. Remember, it was changed in the spirit of making us more responsible for what we say. Tsssk, tssssk


anyway...



Let's say, hypothetically, that the moderator that moved the thread then had to work and was away for, say, four or five days. (Don't shoot any spitballs over here, UAL78 - - I get e-mail notifications! Don't think we don't know what you said in SPITE of your attempt to retract it! ) In that case, it would be appropriate for him to answer, in public, the question that was posed in public. If we disallow as hearsay the PM that was posted, we're still left with no explanation. The natives get restless when they get left in the dark!

Be brave Anonymous Moderator (remember, 10th point of the Scout Law ) and tell us like it is.

DELETED for vulgar content

DELETED for personal attack

DELETED for posting scab list

PENALTY BOX for bikini-clad Avatar

BANNED for link to porn site

MOVED so newbies can find it better


We may not all agree to the rationale, but at least we can know what it is.



Just my opinion - - actual mileage may vary.

 

[Turbo Beaver]

For the longest time to qualify as a major you had to exceed $1 Billion in Revenue, I don't know about you but I'd sure put UPS and FEDEX in that category. That criteria might not have changed but the airlines that meet it sure the heck have.

Besides, the "Majors" forum falls under the interview side of this site, most guys log on to find out about those airlines that are HIRING, (I might be wrong again but once again UPS and FEDEX fall into that category), to get gouge and a feel for the process and share experiences.

For those that feel the UPS and FEDEX's of this world are a step below the self loading freight side of the house, take a look at your own companies financial report and see if you too actually belong. (Maybe we can come up with another forum like...."was a major but lost 2% of the GDP of the entire Mid west"

TB

Boxes dont Bi*ch