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100% was designed and engineered by Boeing folks. They aren't currently having manufacturing issues.
Agreed, all this outsourcing talk makes me laugh, as if Boeing hired some companies in Somalia that produce paper cups to work on this proyect, all these vendors are wold class companies that have a long history of engineering excellence. Sticky fuel dump valves or even electrical problems with the batteries is an easy solvable problem, this A/C will go on to become a fantastic product. If you think is a piece of junk, no problem, you don't need to fly it!
 
Well it's the first airliner to have teething problems.......other than the Electra, the DC-10 the DC-6, the Comet and.... well the 747 had it's issues and oh yeah the 727 had a bunch of crashes when it came out, but other than that.....oh wait, wasn't there something with the L1011 when it first came out? At least the tail doesn't come off like those darn plastic Airbus's, oh wait it's the 737 that had all those rudder hard overs and the roofs come off.
 
What a piece of work. Your worrying about hiring, enjoy your stay at the regionals. You are not welcome to play with the big boys. LOL
yea, "lol." This could very well affect jobs for a lot of people.

The Federal Aviation Administration issued a statement ordering operators of Boeing 787s to ground those airplanes until they prove that the batteries onboard are safe.
 
That's not good, you don't just swap out the LIPO's for Nicad's and call it good. And leave it to the FAA to put the burden on the operator to prove it is safe after they certified it in the first place.
 
Well it's the first airliner to have teething problems.......other than the Electra, the DC-10 the DC-6, the Comet and.... well the 747 had it's issues and oh yeah the 727 had a bunch of crashes when it came out, but other than that.....oh wait, wasn't there something with the L1011 when it first came out? At least the tail doesn't come off like those darn plastic Airbus's, oh wait it's the 737 that had all those rudder hard overs and the roofs come off.
Entirely true. But how many of those airplanes used L-ion batts? Haven't we had some hull, and life losses due to these damn things? As electrically heavy as the 787 is, are there nicads big and light enough to take their place? Do we even want nicads in there for thermal runaway reasons?

No thanks. I prefer to stick with engine driven hydraulics and pneumatics along with more conventional electrickery.
 
That's not good, you don't just swap out the LIPO's for Nicad's and call it good. And leave it to the FAA to put the burden on the operator to prove it is safe after they certified it in the first place.

This marks the beginning of the blame game and process to indemnify parties in the event of a hull loss.
 
Didn't a Boeing certification aircraft have an electrical meltdown during testing as well?

Yes, but that was a piece of test data collection equipment, not the apu battery.
 

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