ANA JAL Ground All 787s

[Furloughed80]

The 787 issues continue. Another emergency landing today...

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[densoo]

If it spreads to UAL it could cancel the system bid and definitely hurt hiring.

 

[tie1on]

What a piece of work. Your worrying about hiring, enjoy your stay at the regionals. You are not welcome to play with the big boys. LOL

 

[WSurf]

What happens when you outsource a plane!!! 30% of the 787 is foreign made, compared to 5% when the 747 was built. Hmmmm, Kinda goes right with our economy!!

 

[nimtz]

JAL just joined the parking party. Funny how these things ran reasonably well for the Japanese until Jeffery got his hands on a few. How utterly embarrassing is the UAL 787 propaganda before the safety video now?!? Hey Jeff its Karma again, LEAVE THIS INDUSTRY FOREVER!

 

[trip]

TOKYO (AP) -- Japan's two biggest airlines grounded all their Boeing 787 aircraft for safety checks Wednesday after one was forced to make an emergency landing in the latest blow for the new jet.
All Nippon Airways said a cockpit message showed battery problems and a burning smell was detected in the cockpit and the cabin, forcing the 787 on a domestic flight to land at Takamatsu airport in western Japan.
It said a later inspection of the plane found leaking electrolyte and burn marks around the main battery, located in an area below the cockpit.






Different battery this time, sounds like it could have been really bad. Good job to the ANA crew for getting it on the ground in one piece.

 

[ERfly]

JAL just joined the parking party. Funny how these things ran reasonably well for the Japanese until Jeffery got his hands on a few. How utterly embarrassing is the UAL 787 propaganda before the safety video now?!? Hey Jeff its Karma again, LEAVE THIS INDUSTRY FOREVER!

But, it's a "quantum leap in technology." I thought "if you want to be the world's leading airline, you had to have the world's leading airplane."

 

[Ops check good]

Being the first commercial A/C to use Lithium Ion batteries is looking like its back firing. Hopefully the problem turns out to be with the batteries or chargers and not A/C design. If it is then its a quick fix and plane fly's on.

 

[BrickTop]

I love it. American workers are proudly saying "We told you so." Plastic outsourced pile of junk.

 

[jonjuan]

What happens when you outsource a plane!!! 30% of the 787 is foreign made, compared to 5% when the 747 was built. Hmmmm, Kinda goes right with our economy!!

100% was designed and engineered by Boeing folks. They aren't currently having manufacturing issues.

 

[Dumb Pilot]

100% was designed and engineered by Boeing folks. They aren't currently having manufacturing issues.

Agreed, all this outsourcing talk makes me laugh, as if Boeing hired some companies in Somalia that produce paper cups to work on this proyect, all these vendors are wold class companies that have a long history of engineering excellence. Sticky fuel dump valves or even electrical problems with the batteries is an easy solvable problem, this A/C will go on to become a fantastic product. If you think is a piece of junk, no problem, you don't need to fly it!

 

[Dan Roman]

Well it's the first airliner to have teething problems.......other than the Electra, the DC-10 the DC-6, the Comet and.... well the 747 had it's issues and oh yeah the 727 had a bunch of crashes when it came out, but other than that.....oh wait, wasn't there something with the L1011 when it first came out? At least the tail doesn't come off like those darn plastic Airbus's, oh wait it's the 737 that had all those rudder hard overs and the roofs come off.

 

[wscrj]

FAA just grounded US 787's

 

[wscrj]

http://wap.kirotv.com/site.htm?targ...ews/news/faa-grounding-all-boeing-787s/nTyfB/

 

[densoo]

What a piece of work. Your worrying about hiring, enjoy your stay at the regionals. You are not welcome to play with the big boys. LOL

yea, "lol." This could very well affect jobs for a lot of people.

The Federal Aviation Administration issued a statement ordering operators of Boeing 787s to ground those airplanes until they prove that the batteries onboard are safe.

 

[trip]

That's not good, you don't just swap out the LIPO's for Nicad's and call it good. And leave it to the FAA to put the burden on the operator to prove it is safe after they certified it in the first place.

 

[asayankee]

Didn't a Boeing certification aircraft have an electrical meltdown during testing as well?

 

[OPECJet]

Well it's the first airliner to have teething problems.......other than the Electra, the DC-10 the DC-6, the Comet and.... well the 747 had it's issues and oh yeah the 727 had a bunch of crashes when it came out, but other than that.....oh wait, wasn't there something with the L1011 when it first came out? At least the tail doesn't come off like those darn plastic Airbus's, oh wait it's the 737 that had all those rudder hard overs and the roofs come off.

Entirely true. But how many of those airplanes used L-ion batts? Haven't we had some hull, and life losses due to these damn things? As electrically heavy as the 787 is, are there nicads big and light enough to take their place? Do we even want nicads in there for thermal runaway reasons?

No thanks. I prefer to stick with engine driven hydraulics and pneumatics along with more conventional electrickery.

 

[flygirlqt]

That's not good, you don't just swap out the LIPO's for Nicad's and call it good. And leave it to the FAA to put the burden on the operator to prove it is safe after they certified it in the first place.

This marks the beginning of the blame game and process to indemnify parties in the event of a hull loss.

 

[JimNtexas]

Didn't a Boeing certification aircraft have an electrical meltdown during testing as well?

Yes, but that was a piece of test data collection equipment, not the apu battery.