An outsiders view of the ALPA/SWAPA story

[waveflyer]

Your proposal doesn't provide a full accounting of the value difference between the two companies. AT pilots left for swa. True- but thousands more wouldn't leave the military or their regional for AT even though it was attainable.
There is no way to exactly account for it- doesn't mean it's irrelevant.

Should the fact that Air Tran was purchased with profits we helped earn have any effect on the SLI? Since we're talking capitalism...

 

[scoreboardII]

That is not an accurate description of the situation. .

Yes, it is. The only way to accurately describe the situation is to say what it is; they got bought.

 

[On Your Six]

Your proposal doesn't provide a full accounting of the value difference between the two companies. AT pilots left for swa. True- but thousands more wouldn't leave the military or their regional for AT even though it was attainable.
There is no way to exactly account for it- doesn't mean it's irrelevant.

Should the fact that Air Tran was purchased with profits we helped earn have any effect on the SLI? Since we're talking capitalism...

Please use that as evidence in your possible arbitration hearings upcoming. I hope they post the reactions online, and they won't need laugh tracks. Same happened with Colgan. How did they do in arbitration?



OYS

 

[waveflyer]

OYS- at long last: shut the f^ck up- nobody on either side cares what you think

 

[CaptWidgeon]

they got bought.

this seems to be a part of the equation so many overlook. whether intentionally or accidentally i don't know, but this is business. there is a time for hugs and all that good warm fuzzy crap, but sorry, this ain't the time. that's what sl9 was about. seems like there were enough pissed people on both side that it was just about right.

he who has the gold makes the rules.

 

[On Your Six]

OYS- at long last: shut the f^ck up- nobody on either side cares what you think

You're getting mad! (because I am right). Get used to it. Neither side? Wrong.


OYS

 

[On Your Six]

this seems to be a part of the equation so many overlook. whether intentionally or accidentally i don't know, but this is business. there is a time for hugs and all that good warm fuzzy crap, but sorry, this ain't the time. that's what sl9 was about. seems like there were enough pissed people on both side that it was just about right.

he who has the gold makes the rules.

No, that was done away with thanks to the Bond/McKaskill legislation. You can't just staple. Also, all parties seemed to sign the Process Agreement, which outlines the next steps.


OYS

 

[CaptWidgeon]

No, that was done away with thanks to the Bond/McKaskill legislation. You just can't do what you want. You can't just staple. Also, all parties seemed to sign the Process Agreement, which outlines the next steps. But, there could be a negotiated settlement prior to that, I guess.


OYS

if you are saying b/m prevents stapling, period, i believe that's wrong. what is "fair and equitable" in one situation may not apply in another. to say there is never a time when a staple could/would be fair we'll have to agree to disagree.

 

[BR715]

Yes if SWAPA does not get their way they will go tell mommy.

 

[redflyer65]

MEC vote became a failed attempt for SWAPA to swing the vote of individual pilots via scare tactics.

Don't be saving those 1742 FedEx "fear" packages, you not gonna need them.

Fly-By,

If and when Gary pulls the complete plug on AAI, you still going to be coming on here posting 'Scare Tactics'. If you really don't think he's considering it, your either not that sharp or not listening up.

RF