AMF Pay Raise

[AZFr8tPilot]

I met one of the pilots that got the 1900 and she was in her first year. She was willing to take a run in PHX that was not very popular I think. She told me that there was another pilot in the same group that had less than a year and also went to PHX. Not bad. I hope this continues.

It's called an outstation, and yes they tend to go junior because of the more challenging schedules and living arrangements. Not to mention the fact that you have to live in places like Sierra Vista, Nogales, and Yuma...those are the 1900 outstations out of the PHX base.

 

[1st2000]

It's called an outstation, and yes they tend to go junior because of the more challenging schedules and living arrangements. Not to mention the fact that you have to live in places like Sierra Vista, Nogales, and Yuma...those are the 1900 outstations out of the PHX base.

Nogales, that's it! That is what she told me. Thanks for the explanation about outstations.

I am not sure that Nogales is actually paradise, but her schedule is pretty sweet. I think it is awesome there are those kinds of opportunities for those that are willing to chase them. It is the way it should be I guess.

 

[AZFr8tPilot]

Nogales outstation.... her schedule is pretty sweet...

Outstations are great opportunities, but the schedules in most cases (including this one) are far from sweet. They are actually pretty rough and wearing over time....especially if you don't actually live full-time in your outstation town.

 

[CFIIer]

I thought I saw somewhere that mins to get on the metroliner and E120 are like 1800/500. What kinds of times do the people who come off the street and fill those spots typically have? The metro that is based in bakersfield, only lays over at ONT once a week, or does the pilot live in ONT? Also, does AMF have floaters (guys on reserve) when the normal pilot can't do the run that day/week?

 

[frmrBUFFdrvr]

I am not sure how you figured any of this?

Part of the reason you can't figure it out is that there are some wrong assumptions made. Like that each time you change planes, the clock for the bonus resets. If you are going to take a transition to a new plane, you will incure a training commitment anyway, so you would pick up the resigning bonus the first year. And you would get the retention bonus every year after that. The pay scale (as always) is based on years with the company, not in the position.

You're usually pretty good with numbers, KSU, but you really mixed it up this time. If someone were to stay till 6.5 years using the scenerio you laid out, they would have received in the neighborhood of $15,000 in retention bonus money (before taxes, obviously.)

 

[time builder]

I thought I saw somewhere that mins to get on the metroliner and E120 are like 1800/500. What kinds of times do the people who come off the street and fill those spots typically have? The metro that is based in bakersfield, only lays over at ONT once a week, or does the pilot live in ONT? Also, does AMF have floaters (guys on reserve) when the normal pilot can't do the run that day/week?

Company minimums are flexible. They'd like to have 1400 for a Chieftain, 1800 for a BE99 and 2500 for the Metro, but those times aren't realistic anymore for junior Bases like SLC. Bases like BFI and PHX are more senior, and will take longer to progress.

On the subject of outstation bases, the schedule is typically Monday night through Saturday morning for UPS and DHL runs. You spend five nights a week away from home (at the base layover) and you're home all day every day.

If you're like me, having a wife and small child, it can be a great lifestyle. Some folks hate it, particularly if they're single, or choose not to live at the outstation.

Yes, there is a reserve, but if you're outstation based it's a little tricky to use to get a day off at home. Then again, you could have the guy who used to do your route still living in town and maintaining PTOC status, but you'd have to be real lucky for that to happen.

Sorry for deviating from the subject of the thread, carry on.

 

[tinman]

Yes, there is a reserve, but if you're outstation based it's a little tricky to use to get a day off at home. Then again, you could have the guy who used to do your route still living in town and maintaining PTOC status, but you'd have to be real lucky for that to happen.

You lucky dog!!

 

[time builder]

I know, living the life.

 

[Str82theNumbers]

Dear AMF Upper upper management,

Yes there has been a pay raise, first year guarantee is $45,500. Average flight time per month is 40-50 hours for a scheduled route. If your on-demand it could be as low as 20 when its slow or well over 100 when its busy.

That is for a Be-99 PIC in a part of the country with MUCH lower cost of living doing the SAME type of flying for the SAME big brown company.

Details in this thread.

Please shove your pathetic new pay rates, and all accompanying excuses, up your collective asses.

Thanks.

 

[ksu_aviator]

Part of the reason you can't figure it out is that there are some wrong assumptions made. Like that each time you change planes, the clock for the bonus resets. If you are going to take a transition to a new plane, you will incure a training commitment anyway, so you would pick up the resigning bonus the first year. And you would get the retention bonus every year after that. The pay scale (as always) is based on years with the company, not in the position.

You're usually pretty good with numbers, KSU, but you really mixed it up this time. If someone were to stay till 6.5 years using the scenerio you laid out, they would have received in the neighborhood of $15,000 in retention bonus money (before taxes, obviously.)

That is not how the memo reads. The memo specifically states that you are not eligible for a bonus if you are under a training contract unless you sign on for two years than you can get a 5% signing bonus.