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Ameristar, the new Schedule, and Ethics

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atpcliff said:
until the pay came back to normal

Which took a total of 3 months, then the pay was back to normal. But most importantly JUS lost about 15 pilots during the months afterwards. So they'll think long and hard before they pull a stunt like that again. Management got the message.

Question is whether Ameristar's pilots are going to just take this abuse or do something about it. Bragging about mileage pay is only gonna take you so far.
 
It is a very slow August, everyone in the on-demand cargo is feeling hte smae thing right now. Thanks goodness for passenger flying
 
pilotyip said:
It is a very slow August, everyone in the on-demand cargo is feeling hte smae thing right now. Thanks goodness for passenger flying


But Randy, most of your potential passengers are Ford employees!
 
You Ameristar guys do like the JUS guys, get a union vote, that will scare ole wachendorfer. If not you get representation and a contract.
 
na I don't fly that airplane it has a nose wheel. If it has round engines it should have a tail wheel. C-47 and B-17 are my birds.
 
Frieghtnasy, for those Ford passengers, the corp charter is a samll part of our flying. It is the athletic charters where the business booms, NCAA, Pro's etc.
 
Honeycomb thinks he is the master of the universe in job searching and negociating.But lets not forget in any industry you will do whatever to get a start.5 on 2 off and a jet, if your a cfi you will jumpon it. i flew ondemand found a better job, had a contract said bye bye and end of story. Its supply and demand, when i worked at a 135 bottom feeder and saw the dudes at Ameristar and Usa Jet in laredo i thought they were very lucky. Now days im fying a old heavy jet international and wish I was at Eva or Cathay.
Bottom line do what ya gotta due till you get what you want. Why not the airlines do it.
 
New Schedule

well, looks like the 4th of september is coming up soon and the new schedule altogether.
Good luck to everyone!!
 
honeycomb said:
I think you have swallowed the bait, hook, line, rod and reel, bait bucket and tackle box. I doubt you have worked too many places that do and do not require such a document. Though I have never worked for such a company... my opinions are from 20 plus years in a professional aviation observation post.

But, let me give you the absolute minimum on the subject.

There is a reason why they need such a document. And, instead of fixing the problem (work enviornment, pay/qol) they force you to give loyality without any return.

Do you think that these contracts are signed by the employeer? No only the employee. It is a one way street. If you, for some reason, ask to get a guarantee on your pay for that period of time.... What do you think the company would say. If you made them sign a document that read... No provisions of pay and qol will change during my tenure of employment under this contract OR it becomes nullllll and voooooid.

If they want to protect the investment then: ONE, Pay and QOL are the best way to keep a pilot. TWO, Do a better job of interviewing. Find out why or what is motivating the pilot. Does he really want to work here or is he a type rating whore?

It is the company's fault not the pilots'.



Like I said Never Under-Estimate a Pilot and his/her ability to take a BAD Job!

Amen!! Training contracts are BS and for two types of pilots:

1. Low timers who are looking for a shortcut because they "can't flight instruct."

2. Guys with blemishes that prevent their being hired at a reputable company.

I understand both and sympathise with both however you have to sleep in the bed you made. When I had about 500 hrs I was offered a position at one of these companies and chose to continue flight instructing even though I hated it. We all have choices.
 
I dont think its correct saying "they cant flight instruct" maybe its because they are unwilling to make even less money and no guaranteed hours to instruct when you can take a shortcut to gain more experience. No doubt instructing is the best way to get the experience you need, but it isnt an option for everyone.
 

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