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Here goes again...
Please do a search on Amerijet on this thread. I urge you to please reconsider this S. Hole operation. I'll post a few here;
1. They promise FOs and FEs start at 60K per year. They don't pay that. They pay 35K ($45 per hour with 60 guarantee) and take OVER $700 per month for medical for family coverage.
2. No lav on aircraft.
3. You have to print your own Jepps at YOUR expense.
4. The Mx is very spotty. They clear a DMI when it expires only to rewrite it up. For proof go to the mx records of N905AJ around Jan of this year.
5. They have swapped engines from one a/c to another to mask repeated write ups. ie "excessive oil burn on no. 1 eng" appears numerous times on one plane so they put it on another so the write ups stop on that plane only to start again on another.
6. No food or water provided on flight. You have to spend $10 a day or so to stay alive.
7. Per Diem is $1.25 per hour. No over nights (except San Juan) scheduled. Plenty of 16 plus hour duty days followed up by 10 hours rest to do it all over again.
8. Union (if you can call it that) and company have a very rough relationship. Company looks for ways to screw with pilots. (latest that I was privy to was forcing flight crews to wear big bright orange reflective vests whenever on the ramp.)
9. Sick time accrues at 1.25 hours per month. If you call in sick with sick time you get paid 2.5 hours for the day. If you call in sick at the time they call you for a trip (with sick time) they dock you 5.0 hours for the day. If you call in sick for a trip with out any sick time they dock you 5.0 hours for the day. If you call in sick with no sick time then you go into the negative at the rate of 5.0 hours per day. If your earning it at only 1.25 hours per month then it takes qute a while to get back to zero, even though your paycheck was docked 5.0 hours per day you called in sick.
10. Many captains have spent their entire careers at Amerijet. Due to Amerijets extremely crap training program they have a somewhat twisted view on how regulations, the FOM and systems work.
11. Training is outsourced to Aeroservices. The system guys and sim instructors were not too bad. However GOS guy was horrible. They teach GOS by projecting the book (on laptop) onto the wall and everyone reads. Teaches exemption 3585 by reading from the book. When done reading asks,"are there any questions?" No one says anything and he moves on. Later when teaching low vis takeoffs he states that exemption 3585 is used to allow low vis takeoffs requiring a second alternate. (For anyone who know about exemption 3585 you know how incredibly wrong this is!)
12. You are given no training manuals or books in ground school. Instead you are told that Amerijet is a paperless airline and all materials can be found on the company website. That's nice but not great for studying.
13. Since you are required to print your own Jepps many of the pilots elect not to. So you fly with guys that have obscenely outdated charts.
14. None of the airplanes are at all standard. Switches are all over the place on each aircraft. Just starting the engines requires a look around to find the switch.
15. When instructed by MIA departure at 4,000 feet to, "fly best forward speed", I was told by my captain to fly 330kts. I told him "no", gave him 260 to placate him until 10,000 and then had to listen to him lecture all the way to South America.
16. One captain brags about "pulling the CB on the clacker" so he could maintain .80 mach all the way down the descent to 5,000 feet so he could "beat his buddy in" (his friend was flying company aircraft and he wanted to land first for some reason.) By doing this he exceeded VMO by around 50 to 60 knots.
17. The CP has no real airline experience. He's just banged around bottom feeders like Amerijet all his career getting fired from one to be picked up by another.
18. The DO is a pilot with questionable abilities who resents pilots with skill.
19. Amerijet has been around since FedEx started operations. They both started with about the same capital. Amerijet has 9 aircraft.
20. Twenty is too many. I'd sound jaded if I put a 20th complaint about amerijet. There is some good at the company. Let me think...oh yeah, I got it. In all the time I was there my car was never towed from the employee lot.
Choose wisely grasshopper.
Please do a search on Amerijet on this thread. I urge you to please reconsider this S. Hole operation. I'll post a few here;
1. They promise FOs and FEs start at 60K per year. They don't pay that. They pay 35K ($45 per hour with 60 guarantee) and take OVER $700 per month for medical for family coverage.
2. No lav on aircraft.
3. You have to print your own Jepps at YOUR expense.
4. The Mx is very spotty. They clear a DMI when it expires only to rewrite it up. For proof go to the mx records of N905AJ around Jan of this year.
5. They have swapped engines from one a/c to another to mask repeated write ups. ie "excessive oil burn on no. 1 eng" appears numerous times on one plane so they put it on another so the write ups stop on that plane only to start again on another.
6. No food or water provided on flight. You have to spend $10 a day or so to stay alive.
7. Per Diem is $1.25 per hour. No over nights (except San Juan) scheduled. Plenty of 16 plus hour duty days followed up by 10 hours rest to do it all over again.
8. Union (if you can call it that) and company have a very rough relationship. Company looks for ways to screw with pilots. (latest that I was privy to was forcing flight crews to wear big bright orange reflective vests whenever on the ramp.)
9. Sick time accrues at 1.25 hours per month. If you call in sick with sick time you get paid 2.5 hours for the day. If you call in sick at the time they call you for a trip (with sick time) they dock you 5.0 hours for the day. If you call in sick for a trip with out any sick time they dock you 5.0 hours for the day. If you call in sick with no sick time then you go into the negative at the rate of 5.0 hours per day. If your earning it at only 1.25 hours per month then it takes qute a while to get back to zero, even though your paycheck was docked 5.0 hours per day you called in sick.
10. Many captains have spent their entire careers at Amerijet. Due to Amerijets extremely crap training program they have a somewhat twisted view on how regulations, the FOM and systems work.
11. Training is outsourced to Aeroservices. The system guys and sim instructors were not too bad. However GOS guy was horrible. They teach GOS by projecting the book (on laptop) onto the wall and everyone reads. Teaches exemption 3585 by reading from the book. When done reading asks,"are there any questions?" No one says anything and he moves on. Later when teaching low vis takeoffs he states that exemption 3585 is used to allow low vis takeoffs requiring a second alternate. (For anyone who know about exemption 3585 you know how incredibly wrong this is!)
12. You are given no training manuals or books in ground school. Instead you are told that Amerijet is a paperless airline and all materials can be found on the company website. That's nice but not great for studying.
13. Since you are required to print your own Jepps many of the pilots elect not to. So you fly with guys that have obscenely outdated charts.
14. None of the airplanes are at all standard. Switches are all over the place on each aircraft. Just starting the engines requires a look around to find the switch.
15. When instructed by MIA departure at 4,000 feet to, "fly best forward speed", I was told by my captain to fly 330kts. I told him "no", gave him 260 to placate him until 10,000 and then had to listen to him lecture all the way to South America.
16. One captain brags about "pulling the CB on the clacker" so he could maintain .80 mach all the way down the descent to 5,000 feet so he could "beat his buddy in" (his friend was flying company aircraft and he wanted to land first for some reason.) By doing this he exceeded VMO by around 50 to 60 knots.
17. The CP has no real airline experience. He's just banged around bottom feeders like Amerijet all his career getting fired from one to be picked up by another.
18. The DO is a pilot with questionable abilities who resents pilots with skill.
19. Amerijet has been around since FedEx started operations. They both started with about the same capital. Amerijet has 9 aircraft.
20. Twenty is too many. I'd sound jaded if I put a 20th complaint about amerijet. There is some good at the company. Let me think...oh yeah, I got it. In all the time I was there my car was never towed from the employee lot.
Choose wisely grasshopper.
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TheGuat said:
Dude read the post above yours. EVERYONE based in MIA. If you live more than 2 hours away it is IMPOSSIBLE to have any life let alone QOL. Man this is why our industry is so messed up because guys will take a job at Amerijet to get time. I worked there for a brief cup of coffee after 9-11. I found that going back an an active duty tour to the sandbox not only more rewarding to my QOL but was SAFER too.
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L-1011-500 said:
Dude, relax...Recognize the # 1 flamebaiter on this forum for what he is... A guy on leave for mental problems!! The Guat is UPSer, Rhoid, IHaveAPension, FreightNazi, ABXpert, OUT, 410Dude, GuppyKiller, TheGuppyKiller, E170GuppyKiller, RJDC, TheMissingLink, LucyFurr and countless other previously banned users.
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" A friend of mine works there, they WILL NOT UPGRADE FROM THE PANEL to the right seat. They want guys with an A&P so they can to defer stuff till they get back to mia. The other reason they want their FE’s to have a commercial is a FAR to do with training. IF an FE applicant has his/her commercial then all training and check ride can be done in the sim. If not, then the applicant need 4 hours of FLIGHT training before check ride(which is too expensive). Amerijet has found a small pool of guys with an A&P and 250 hours and a wet commercial and are WILLING TO PAY ($7500 )FOR THEIR OWN FE ticket. Not to be a conspiracy nut, but the chief pilot works on the side for Aeroservies, and supposedly he gets some kind of kick back for every guy that they get to sign up for the program. From what I hear, they treat the FE’s like crap and have a high turnover rate, but they don’t care because they have a number of guys willing to buy more FE’s tickets and so on."
STAY AWAY!!!
STAY AWAY!!!
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Dude you're avatar made me thirsty, all i need now is some oreos.
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WOW!!!
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You know, as much as some guys told me and keep telling me I am crazy, all I can say is I would loved to have flow the Metro, heck I would still like too. To bad Ameriflight isnt hiring for DFW in the Metro. That thing looks like an animal!
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Guys, Amerijet is not a bad place to work. You are flying Part 121 ,727's and getting an invaluable experience flying big jets mostly at night and sometimes IMC in mountain terrain doing approaches down to minimums. This is not an airline for the weak at heart.
Starting pay averages 40 to 60,000 ( 60 hours on the guaranty, but you get a lot of overage , duty and trip rig.
If you have the time you go to the right seat, if not you fly the panel, but flying the panel you will learn a lot from the guys/gals upfront.
Maintanance is great, we fly with few DMI's open, if any. Yes these are old tired 727's and yes they will keep you up to speed on the systems. We have revamped the training department and the new cadre of instructors are great.
True the schedule socks, you get 8 days off per month and maybe an additional 7 days off ( we call them blank days), so good chances are that you might get 15 days off a month.
We have turn-overs, some going to Jet Blue,Southwest etc.; others were commuters living out of the South Fla. area. If you don't leave within 2 hours drive from Miami, is no way that you can fly for Amerijet.
I read the comments of some ex- Amerijet pilots that were not to happy with the working conditions and I respect their opinions, but then again unless you work for the majors , Amerijet , I think, is well above the majority of part 135 cargo carriers.
Starting pay averages 40 to 60,000 ( 60 hours on the guaranty, but you get a lot of overage , duty and trip rig.
If you have the time you go to the right seat, if not you fly the panel, but flying the panel you will learn a lot from the guys/gals upfront.
Maintanance is great, we fly with few DMI's open, if any. Yes these are old tired 727's and yes they will keep you up to speed on the systems. We have revamped the training department and the new cadre of instructors are great.
True the schedule socks, you get 8 days off per month and maybe an additional 7 days off ( we call them blank days), so good chances are that you might get 15 days off a month.
We have turn-overs, some going to Jet Blue,Southwest etc.; others were commuters living out of the South Fla. area. If you don't leave within 2 hours drive from Miami, is no way that you can fly for Amerijet.
I read the comments of some ex- Amerijet pilots that were not to happy with the working conditions and I respect their opinions, but then again unless you work for the majors , Amerijet , I think, is well above the majority of part 135 cargo carriers.
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And you're still there, b/c??
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Why no, as a matter of fact I left them the week you wrote this.
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