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[Flyin Tony]

i had my interview on monday and was asked to class. anyone going to be in class on the 13th? i will post more on the interview later. thanks for everyones help

 

[Tryful]

Heya Tony,

Not going to be in your class but when I was up in the training mezzanine (think thats spelled right) I saw the list for the new class and saw a Tony on there. I would think it is a safe assumption that it is indeed you.

Just passed through all of my training there in the PA-31. One piece of advice is Bob really is incredibly full of information just don't let his style of instruction discourage you.

And start STUDYING! If you have a heads up on the reg's list that they have given you it makes life easy. I would emphasize the O2 regs, Alternate requirments and duty days.

Also in my opinion the current crop of instructors right now are pretty darned good! Bunch of good guys!

 

[duc driver]

where are going to be based. thats to both you guys.

 

[Flyin Tony]

Thanks alot!

I will be in the PA31 out of BUR. My times are 1195 and 50

 

[Tryful]

I'm in BUR in the PA-31 as well.

A couple of us just flooded the cheiftain runs, now they don't even know what to do with me. I believe they are trying to get the more senior cheiftain guys up into the 99's so they can give us some steady runs.


Duc driver, if that SN means what I think it means...what kinda duc you ride? Got myself a 05' 999 that I LOVE!

 

[Flyin Tony]

How many PA31 runs do they have going out of BUR, and what are the runs like? I will be heading down there today. How long from start training till you get your first run?

Thanks
Tony

 

[Flyin Tony]

Also how does the flight training work? Do you just go with someone on a run for a week? Or do you go out and do approachs and stalls and all that crap?

 

[skid]

So what do you think is the chances of Metro/1900/99. Flight times...Bases currently operating them and competitive times for getting into some of the bases.

 

[threegreen]

Also how does the flight training work? Do you just go with someone on a run for a week? Or do you go out and do approachs and stalls and all that crap?

I believe you have to do 'all that crap'. Their training is very challenging.

 

[DirtyBeech]

you start out with all that crap. you'll spend several sessions in the chieftain simulator, and then go out and do an LTQC (135 sic checkride). After that you'll be flying a run with a training captain, and during the middle of the day doing training flights consisting of all that crap. i'd be real proficient with all that crap too, because chieftain training in california airspace is no pushover. good luck.

 

[EatSleepFly]

If you know what's good for you, I would also advise not referring to it as "all that crap" within Bob's hearing range. :laugh:

Congrats, and good luck though!

 

[Tryful]

From what I've gathered so far in the flight training is once your done with your 5 sims. Which by no means are easy either! Well except 5 is a pushover but yea.

You'll move into the aircraft and my friend and i who are both BUR based never did an ouce of online training (which is flying routes). We did all offline. What you'll do is just start flying, just like you did during your flight training. And be prepared to have you ego destroyed, the sim and flight training is not easy! you'll start off probably on a VFR flight then work into practice IFR stuff then actual IFR flights. depends on what the instructors wants to do.

But for now don't even worry about it, enjoy your day tommrow full of paperwork! hehe then 3 days of cramming then test on friday.

 

[Flyin Tony]

What does the test cover? I have been studying my a$$ off the from the day after I left the interview.

 

[Hootie9750]

the test is mostly far/aim and some crap that bob talked about during the week. the sims arent hard as long as you know your flows cold. flight training is hard because you have to get used to the standard ameriflight 12-16 hour day. Ive been here 6 months and Im still adjusting. I took my 135 checkride with bob....good times.

 

[DirtyBeech]

i wouldn't sweat the test too very much. you'll see what i mean when you start class. are they not doing online training anymore for the pa31's? it used to be that you'd fly a real run with a training captain, and then do offline training during the middle of the day at the layover. that was true with the 99 as well.

 

[EatSleepFly]

It depends. I did all of mine offline at my base and never even got an LTQC. I guess that's kind of uncommon though.

 

[Tryful]

They are still doing LTQC's for the PA-31's just that a few of us that just went through never did any online training.

Oh tony don't sweat the test all you'll need is the FAR/AIM really for reference and you'll be golden.

 

[SPBRIAN]

The online training vary's from base to base, the reason why there can or is no online training is because alot of the training captains for the PA31 they have are either part 91 only or they are flying a run in a 99/metro/brazilia and it's kind of hard to teach somebody how to fly a chieftain while riding in a 99.

Online/offline is the preferred method, but with the movement/turnover it is probably pretty hard to keep the proper people doing what they need to do.

I wouldn't sweat the test but by no means take that to assume that it will be very easy. There was a bunch in my class when I went through indoc who "didn't sweat it" and out of 23 people one quarter failed the indoc test. Groundschool is the firehose airline concept, there is alot of information that is only covered once, some of it is old but a good ammount of it is new.

Come with a good work ethic, long days, firehose concept and continualy being challenged and you will be fine.

 

[duc driver]

tryful, 2000 monster 750. looking for a 998 to replace the 916 i sold to get my inst rating.

 

[Mojo Risen]

Hiring & Minimums?

I currently talked with a pilot who said that Ameriflight was looking for pilots. Can you tell me if they are firm on the 135 mins, or can I get an interview with a 1023TT?

Tx

 

[SPBRIAN]

I currently talked with a pilot who said that Ameriflight was looking for pilots. Can you tell me if they are firm on the 135 mins, or can I get an interview with a 1023TT?

Tx

1023 is probably a little low, if you can get to within the ammount of total time (not night, x/c, etc. Look iat 135 regs to know how much) that you would get during training (10-20 hours) that would be do-able. 1175ish would probably be dead minimums, but who knows give it a shot never hurts to try.

-Brian

 

[Tryful]

Ducdriver, sweet! 998's are indeed nice without a doubt.


As far as the mins, they are pretty much 100% firm on their hours. If you had around 700tt or so they might look at you as a instructor. But now your just better off getting as close to 1200TT as you can. I got picked up with 1183TT and 300 multi. ended up with just over 1200 when i finished my training. Your gonna need atleast 1175-1180 before they'll consider you.

 

[duc driver]

i second that. there pritty firm.

 

[pilotguy733]

I flew for Amflight in 2004. I'm glad to hear that Bob is still around. That guy is a character! You should feel lucky to have him for ground school - especially for all the stories with the cynicism thrown in. I enjoyed it - seriously!
:beer:

As for the training - be prepared to be humbled, and don't be too proud once you complete it successfully. Its a real challenge with a lot of stress. Its baptism by fire. Once you get online, its a blast - especially in the PA-31.

I look back on Amflight - and the corporate culture was loads better than Mesa is. Had no problem getting time off for an interview. My experience there was great.

Enjoy it and have fun - I sure did!

 

[Catbert]

...if you can get to within the ammount of total time (not night, x/c, etc. Look iat 135 regs to know how much) that you would get during training (10-20 hours) that would be do-able....

What do you mean by "not night, x/c, etc"?

 

[AZaviator]

I look back on Amflight - and the corporate culture was loads better than Mesa is. Had no problem getting time off for an interview. My experience there was great. Enjoy it and have fun - I sure did!

Why did you leave Ameriflight for Mesa, of all places?

Not trying to flame, I'm just curious. A lot of people seem to leave Mesa and come to Ameriflight.

 

[SPBRIAN]

What do you mean by "not night, x/c, etc"?

Requirements for 135 PIC=1200 Total time, 500 hours of cross country point to point and 100 hours of night. If you are short on any of the cross country or the night get it , if your short on total time give it a shot if within 25 hours of 1200.

 

[Linetech]

What no one is telling you is after you complete your training. You will be stuck at the bottom of the list Which I Belive is 104. Depart 0545 and Return at 2300 to BUR. Also a good thing to keep in mind Pa-31 drives help load and offload there freight. Any 104 Drivers on here knows thats alot of bags!!!

 

[Catbert]

Requirements for 135 PIC=1200 Total time, 500 hours of cross country point to point and 100 hours of night. If you are short on any of the cross country or the night get it , if your short on total time give it a shot if within 25 hours of 1200.

Gotcha. I know all about the 135 IFR requirements, just couldn't figure out what you meant there. Thanks

 

[Tryful]

Actually Linetech I think your referring to 101, and I've never been back that late on 104. And from what I remember is that 101 rolls in pretty shortly after 104.

Loading 600lbs of bankbags is definately a setup from flight instructing for a year and a half, in my humble opinion.

Plus the fact they just hired roughly from what I've heard 5 more people into BUR that basically means the senior Cheiftain drivers are movin' on up to the 99 and my class gets the better runs.