Ameriflight Previlege

[fraitman]

Not many Part 135 pilots have jumpseat priveleges with airlines. Larger ones, such as Ameriflight and Airnet have some, because they have enough routes that they can have some value to recriprocate to the airline pilots. AMF has J/S privileges with SWA, Horizon, most cargo operators that we contract with, such as UPS and DHL. After 9/11, we could no longer jump with SKW. Also, after 9/11 we are cabin only on SWA, but from what I understand, cockpit is only available to SWA pilots, all others have to have a seat available in the back. Some other airlines we don't have formal agreements with, but they let us on. The bottom line, the terrorists made our jumpseating less convenient and more restrictive, but I still have no problem traveling for free when I plan ahead. AMF goes just about everywhere in the western U.S., and has coast to coast Lear flights. So just on our own planes we can get around. We don't do much weekend flying, that is usually when I J/S the airlines.

 

[SW4guy]

Call it whatever you wish, airline, night freight operator, a job.... but at least we haven't laid off any pilots in the past 35 years. and AMF hasn't gone to the government crying for a loan or free $ to bail them out because of pooooor planning and spoiled people. I think there's a lot to be said about having a STABLE flying job....so what if I can't j/s to **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED**ville TN.

 

[DIRT]

Roughneck

Spoken like a true elistist airline pilot.

 

[DIRT]

roughneck

Your an english teacher as well? What a combination.

 

[Freight Dog]

The problem with Hazlet is that he was using the jumpseat to reposition pilots which is a big no-no.

When I was there in 2000, it was still going on. I distinctly remember being asked to fly extra BUR-OAK being BUR-based, and they told me to jumpseat back to BUR so I can pick up my regular run. I was like HELL NO!! You want me in BUR, you either give me an airplane to fly there or buy me a ticket. Jumpseat is MY privilege to use at MY discretion for MY benefit, not AMF. Took phone calls to BUR and telling off OAK chief pilot and some management up there, but they finally bought me a ticket back to BUR.

Moral of the story.. make sure the management ain't tricking pilots to make runs for him... and if you are an AMF pilot BEING ASKED to jumpseat somewhere, you tell them to shove it because you are risking your jumpseat privilege. The jumpseat is for YOUR PERSONAL USE ONLY, not for the company to save $$$.

 

[flybtp]

That kind of thing has stopped. They are really very good about buying tickets when they have to.

 

[Freight Dog]

BUR base day people are good about honoring jumpseat protocol and what it's there for. People with "limited knowledge of a jumpseat protocol" are in other bases, OAK in particular and the Chief Pilot there (Kurt something) and J.J.

 

[Trout]

I know that at ACA they don't allow AMF to jump seat.

Who's ACA and where do they fly?

 

[Freight Dog]

ACA = Atlantic Coast Airlines dba United Express up and down the East Coast and Midwest. They fly CRJ's, Dorniers and J41's.


www.atlanticcoast.com

 

[C-5 MEM]

Trout,

ACA has a list on who can jump seat with us. A cargo company out of CMH called airnet has been allowed to jump seat with us. But last week on a flight on NWA there was this 135 guy trying to jump seat, the ticket agent told him that they were not allowed to jump seat. He went up to the Capt and intoduced himself and told him who he flew with. I don't recall the name but the capt had no problems with it. Which leads up to this. On a flight several months ago I was jump seating and the the ticket agent told me that they already have a jump seater. I ended up doing an ID95. On board I found out the jump seater was a flight attn. The point of this is that even though the ticket guards say no, its up to the captain if you are allowed to jump seat.



Terry Vickers
ACA/CRJ