America's bad rap

[blingair]

Seems the world is spring loaded to hate the U.S. and interprets anything we do as hostile. Case in point: new pictures of Saddam in his underwear. Now it seems world opinion has got it's panties in a twist. Didn't this guy commit genocide but we're in the wrong because he's in his thong? Also was Abu Gharib all that bad? Its not like we lopped off heads or anything like that. Just wondering, I think I may be losing my persceptive on the whole thing.

 

[SkyBoy1981]

Darn, I was expecting this thread to be about rap music. I agree though, liberals are breeding.

 

[blingair]

I could rap but it wouldn't be pretty.

 

[FN FAL]

Hahaha

I could have lived my entire life without having seen Saddam in his "tighty whities".

What do you think guys?

Was it A or B or WTF?

• Is this a plot to rile up the last of the Jihad punks and get them to hurry up and come their demise?
  
• or...is it a liberal media ploy to kick sand in Bush's face, by riling up the middle easterners, screwing up the good works done so far?
  
• or...is it C?

 

[FN FAL]

I could rap but it wouldn't be pretty.

I hear ya...American rap was best, when the "chicken taste like wood" (rapper's delight).

Crime rhyme was cool with the ICE-T, untill "cop killer" came out...and NWA and Posse was good stuff. This crap they got today...blahhhhhh! Make it go away....puh-leeeeeeeze!

 

[qmaster3]

Crime rhyme was cool with the ICE-T, untill "cop killer" came out...and NWA and Posse was good stuff. This crap they got today...blahhhhhh! Make it go away....puh-leeeeeeeze!

And now ICE-T is the cop.

Anyway put on some Jones, JR, Willie, and Waylon. And lets crack open another FN

 

[FN FAL]

And now ICE-T is the cop.

Yea, but in the Army, a Quatermaster is an SK? What's up wit dat?

 

[qmaster3]

The Navy Diver is not a fighting man, he is a salvage expert.

 

[FN FAL]

The Navy Diver is not a fighting man, he is a salvage expert.

but I was neither, nor...plus, I can't speel woth a damb...

Quatermaster

 

[blingair]

Is Saddam a secular muslim? Is that a oxymoron?

 

[qmaster3]

but I was neither

LOL

I know, but I was in the ball park.

 

[I.P. Freley]

Seems the world is spring loaded to hate the U.S. and interprets anything we do as hostile. Case in point: new pictures of Saddam in his underwear. Now it seems world opinion has got it's panties in a twist. Didn't this guy commit genocide but we're in the wrong because he's in his thong? Also was Abu Gharib all that bad? Its not like we lopped off heads or anything like that. Just wondering, I think I may be losing my persceptive on the whole thing.

Nah, you're not losing perspective... You just don't understand the rest of the world (and nor do I). You're exactly right, to "the rest of the world" everything we do is bad. It's been this way for a good long while, and none of it is particularly surprising to me anymore. P.J. O'Rourke wrote an entertaining piece pooh-poohing the Europeans about 20 years ago, the title of which escapes me, but I think it was called "Among the EuroWeenies", from his book "Holidays in Hell". I admit that it was a seminal revelation in my mind, that the world hates us, and to hell with them anyway.

Is Abu Ghraib all that bad? Nah, not to us. The problem is that it made us look even WORSE, which in the eyes of the world didn't take much. I think the reaction of the media in THIS country was completely over-the-top, but maybe (to give them the benefit of the doubt) they did it to make the world think that we thought such behavior was so atrocious that we needed to fling the perpetrators off a cliff.

Not that I necessarily believe that, but not much else makes any sense.

Not to make this overly political, but this is one reason why I'm glad Kerry isn't our president right now... He'd have made a much bigger deal of Abu Ghraib than the media already have, and he'd be trying very, very hard (unsuccessfully) to make me feel that it was a tragedy. Gotta do something to make the world happy, right? Not that it would improve our lot in the MidEast... I'm pretty much of the opinion that nothing we could ever do, short of pulling out completely, would make those people happy.

 

[blingair]

So is it better to pull out now and have the last 1600+ deaths in vain or stay and risk that number times who knows how many? Is it possible for Christians, Jews and Muslims to live in harmony? The past doesn't give much hope.

 

[I.P. Freley]

Is it possible for Christians, Jews and Muslims to live in harmony?

That's the best laugh I've had all month.

Short answer? NO. I think the history of the last two thousand years is likely to be the future of the next two thousand years... If we all don't kill each other first.

 

[blingair]

Thats too bad. Every race has something to offer. Regardless how this whole thing turns out, Veterans day is soon and all those who have died from this point back all did so because they promised to do their duty and did so with little regard for themselves but for their buddies. They will never see another sunset, or drink a cold Coke on the 4th of July, or smell fresh cut grass or hear the brillant things their offspring will say. No matter how the media spins things, a vet always gets a free beer from me.