American

[ACAFool]

Anyone know how many people they still have on furlough? And do they have more plans to furlough or are recalls in their future?

Thanks

 

[Starlizard]

around 2900. (Number doesn't include those that were in training or awaiting training when 9-11 happened.)

no plans to recall. AA is still in cost cutting (gut labor) mode.

 

[Hoot R. Hunter]

no plans to recall. AA is still in cost cutting (gut labor) mode.

additionally: no plans to recall. APA is still in the cost cutting (gut pilot labor) mode as well.

 

[psysix]

When will they be hiring again?

 

[catIIIc]

Probably never, by the time they get around to getting all the furloughees back the next downturn will happen and will furlough again.

 

[CaptWidgeon]

how far back do the furlough's go?

 

[B6Driver]

1988 hires.

 

[typhoonpilot]

1988 hires.

:bomb:

This should be interesting.

TP

 

[ACAFool]

1988 hires.

Is this a typo (maybe 1998) or is it really 1988. Or is that because of the senior twa's.

 

[DIAMONDDD]

Or is that because of the senior twa's.

BINGO!

 

[nitrogen]

Actually

For real AA pilots furloughs go back to mid 2000 I believe.

Lowest seniority around 9700 or so.

They have no choice but to recall by early next year and with the early retirements going the way they are it could be a lot sooner.

Is the union trying to give away the farm??

Yeah, but I dont think theyll be able to pull it off this time.

We'll see.

 

[AA717driver]

They have no choice but to recall by early next year and with the early retirements going the way they are it could be a lot sooner.

HOHOHOHOHO!!!! ROTFL!!!!

AMR will resist recalling until the schedule is crumbling around them and they have chief pilots going door to door looking for pilots hiding from crew sched.

Until they can't hide the fact that they are cancelling flights due to crew shortages they will not recall.

Thanks for the laugh, though. TC

 

[furloughfodder]

HOHOHOHOHO!!!! ROTFL!!!!

AMR will resist recalling until the schedule is crumbling around them and they have chief pilots going door to door looking for pilots hiding from crew sched.

Haha! The AA pilots won't be hiding from crew sched. They will fly all the overtime they can get their hands on, just like they always have....at the expense of the furloughed guys. No different.

The only thing that will stop them is when they start timing out.

 

[Draginass]

I wouldn't expect any recalls for several years. The APA leadership is in a concessionary mood and is probably going to give away big productivity enhancements to management. It's happening now. The working AA pilots are flying lots more trying to keep their W-2s as high as possible.

Recalls . . not likely. I'll bet a lot of AA retirees would accept a contract back in a heartbeat, if Arpey were to offer it.

 

[Dangerkitty]

Any of you other Sky Nazis out there (yes TC that means you too ) read that report from the ACA?

I read it cover to cover yesterday and when I got home the first thing I did was sell 2/3's of my options. Doesn't look like things are going to be very rosy for AA in the near future. If ever.