American United Delta

[nwaf16dude]

If you have the choice, you couldn't really go wrong with either one. I'd choose the one that has a large, unlikely to close, pilot base near where you want to live. Commuting sucks, especially long range commuting.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

As a Delta guy,

I stare at the route and hub structure of UAL (including a newer fleet) and once they get out of their own way......they will print money.

SLC, DTW, MSP and ATL can't compete with DEN, ORD, And IAD period.

Delta cuts and runs from all competition and picks up used planes like its 1999....

 

[Yuppyguppy]

Funny we at UAL say the same thing about DAL. You guys kicked our asses past 2 years. Smisek sucks and you guys got better mgmt. But maybe we will be better in the future if we can get consolidated and get someone who wants to run the ship and isn't a lawyer.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Funny we at UAL say the same thing about DAL. You guys kicked our asses past 2 years. Smisek sucks and you guys got better mgmt. But maybe we will be better in the future if we can get consolidated and get someone who wants to run the ship and isn't a lawyer.

I totally agree. United hubs and route structure are going to be WAY more profitable in the future. Add in the 787 and what it can do..

Delta will be fine, but we are far more focused on supplying overseas codeshare partner hubs. We don't even fly NYC to Berlin. The variety at United makes me jealous.

The mgt team at United is the problem.

 

[Furloughed80]

1) DAL
2)/3) Tie between UAL and AMR

DAL management has all the talent right now. It's amazing what they have done in NYC; and let's see what they do in LAX, SEA, and LON in the next few years. Apparently that's where their focus is shifting.

As a UA guy, I seriously hope we get our $hit together soon.

 

[Continental]

Cougar - happy to help...and BTW, word is hiring to continue at the new United for the foreseeable future without an end in sight. 60'ish a month. I think it may slow down post SLI completion for a few months, and then will pick right up again.

Latest blastmail from the IAH chief pilot said 9,500'ish apps on file with one added every hour. And these are all qualified guys/gals. Tough to get an interview right now. I'm trying to get one of my mil bro's in as we speak.

You read those things. I don't believe anything that comes out of a CP's mouth. Especially ours. We are hiring though.

 

[waveflyer]

SWA
Fdx
Emirates
Cathay
Any good intl contract job
Flight instructor
Self employed businessman
Attorney
Realtor
Pool boy
Pizza boy
Zit popper at a dermatologist
Then
American/united/delta

Movement will be back, but I flat out think it sucks your soul to work at those places-
That said, for the lurkers, im no hater- i just decided i couldnt give my life to those outfits- The money will return and movement will be steady to fast (better than at swa for sure) and that is good-
I echo the sentiments: aggressively pursue all 3 - and stay w/ who hires you first-
Chase bases or the current contract or any other short term motivation and I guarantee those will change over time-

Good luck- all of us have earned better than the 2000's generally gave us

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

You know WAVE. I unblocked you for humor and you redeemed yourself with your entertaining stupidity....

Sucks your soul? Really? Ya gonna show us your jazz hands next Mr. Drama?

I found that paying for your type for a job was the ultimate slap in the face to the profession, but never soul sucking.....you can crawl on your knees all through life taking the easy route which you have become accustomed to.

 

[waveflyer]

To each their own billy

All the legacies are SELLOUTS to me

But I won't deny- there will opportunity there if you can hold your nose and stand the rj's and work environments

 

[NWA-AirGuard]

SWA

Movement will be back, but I flat out think it sucks your soul to work at those places-



Waveflyer, you have lost your mind!

 

[jonjuan]

SWA

Movement will be back, but I flat out think it sucks your soul to work at those places-



Waveflyer, you have lost your mind!

She's pregnant. It's probably just the hormones.

 

[anewunion]

SWA
Fdx
Emirates
Cathay
Any good intl contract job
Flight instructor
Self employed businessman
Attorney
Realtor
Pool boy
Pizza boy
Zit popper at a dermatologist
Then
American/united/delta

Movement will be back, but I flat out think it sucks your soul to work at those places-
That said, for the lurkers, im no hater- i just decided i couldnt give my life to those outfits- The money will return and movement will be steady to fast (better than at swa for sure) and that is good-
I echo the sentiments: aggressively pursue all 3 - and stay w/ who hires you first-
Chase bases or the current contract or any other short term motivation and I guarantee those will change over time-

Good luck- all of us have earned better than the 2000's generally gave us

Question- Do any of theses professions require a type to be competitive ?

 

[waveflyer]

Question- Do any of theses professions require a type to be competitive ?

Nah, just southwest. Everybody else will train you.

I mean you don't even have to be a sellout d-----bag to pass your probation checkride at delta- they'll train you over time for that. Just try and make sure you're at full dbag before you get to a wide body and you'll be fine- at Delia's expense of course

Lighten up y'all-

I just find the thread funny considering the last 12 years
But the great thing is you're right! It'll be United American Delta once again-

Try and get in at the beginning of the wave-. If you do, and it'll be a long wave... You should have a sweet ride.

Good luck to all-
I'm getting my digs in just bc of the outsourcing thing, but I sincerely wish everyone on here the best of luck and hope that we can make this career what it should be

 

[waveflyer]

SWA

Movement will be back, but I flat out think it sucks your soul to work at those places-



Waveflyer, you have lost your mind!

Long time ago man.

I let outsourcing get to me
I'll bow out and stop hatin'
enjoy the movement - it's long overdue and well deserved
Sincerely

 

[propjob27]

holly sh!t is it 1999?

Agreed. This is the only thing I've read in this thread that made me giggle.

I can remember being a commuter puke back then and remember my '99 dream sheet:

UAL
DAL
AMR
NWA
CAL
FDX
UPS
SWA
US Air
AWA

Then 9/11/2001 came and ******************** loads of pay and work rule concessions followed.

I recall my revised, 2003 + Dream Sheet

FDX
CAL
SWA
UPS
ATA
JetBlue
AirTran

Wasn't sure the other outfits would ever hire again before I was 40.

Ended up at FDX which at the time made me pretty happy. But when UAVs come out I guess I'll be one of those old, bald, hunched over high-water wearing mother ****ers applying to UAL/AMR/DAL again.

Actually, hopefully when UAVs come out, I've got enough $$$ stashed away to live in The PI and/or Thailand. Which, is where I'm off to right now. Vacation time!

 

[fr8doggie]

Long time ago man.

I let outsourcing get to me
I'll bow out and stop hatin'
enjoy the movement - it's long overdue and well deserved
Sincerely

A nicely written sentiment from Wave. GL- how 'bout you return to your commitment of a "kindler, gentler GL" so we can have some decent debates without the ridiculous smackdowns?

Regards,
Fr8-

 

[General Lee]

A nicely written sentiment from Wave. GL- how 'bout you return to your commitment of a "kindler, gentler GL" so we can have some decent debates without the ridiculous smackdowns?

Regards,
Fr8-

I have no problem with that at all. I welcome it.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Long time ago man.

I let outsourcing get to me
I'll bow out and stop hatin'
enjoy the movement - it's long overdue and well deserved
Sincerely

All this from a guy who hitched his experience wagon to the very same outsourcing body who gave him his experience to buy his type and then apply to SWA....

Nice Work Wave....you aren't Paul Revere.....you the turd his horse left behind when he started his ride.......

 

[waveflyer]

Blah blah blah-
Why are you on here making things up about me, when you could be selling out some more.

(You see billy likes to make things up about the pilots he sold out, so he can justify having done it)

I was very well qualified for SWA when I flew the RJ thank you- but you know that.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Yeah Wave,

You just hung out at DCI for years because you didn't feel the the time was right to buy your type rating?

Yeah yeah.....mmmmkayyyy....sure