American to announce...

[TWA Dude]

TWA Dude
De facto protection
Care to elaborate ?

Sure. The bottom 1200 or so of the combined seniority list is all ex-TWA and we have zero furlough protection. The rest are dovetailed in with non-TWA pilots. The non-TWA AA pilots have flow-back and mandatory early-out options which makes it very difficult for them to be furloughed, unless of course force majeur is enacted. Since all furloughs must be in reverse-seniority order those senior ex-TWA guys can't be furloughed without AA guys getting it first. Thus they enjoy de facto protection.

Skydiverdriver, this should answer your question as well.

 

[FLYnMONKEYS]

Re: The missing link...

Skydiverdriver--here is the missing link...


The reasons that ex-TW pilots crew there own planes is because their cockpit layouts and procedures differ from AA's. Every pilot has to be re-trained to AA specs and some of the ex-TW will be reconfigured to make them identical to AA's. It took many years before the ex-Reno pilots were able to mix crews and aircraft.

Even though the callsign and the paint are the same they are seperate airlines operationally. TWAllc is on a completely seperate certificate. Not only would it require differences training, it would also require Indoc.

 

[emb1452002]

None

Tuesday is the latest word. Stock up on KY. I wonder if we can get a bulk discount if we are with AMR. Or a free lifetime supply?

 

[dogg]

question for anyone that flies for American: If the rumors are true about 1000 more furloughs, how far back in calendar years will the most junior pilot be. I have a couple of former co-workers that fly there that I have lost touch with and I am just wondering if they will still be working. Thanks

 

[AAflyer]

Not sure where Monday came from, all sources have said it would announced on the 13th. That would be Tuesday. Should know tomorrow what our future holds.


AAflyer

 

[AAflyer]

dogg,

Just thought I would peek at the board before I went to bed. I am pretty fried or I would go research for ya. Will do it tomorrow, but will give a WAG. I think it puts them into the early to mid year 2000. Once again it is a wag, but I don't think I am that far off.

AAflyer

 

[dogg]

AA flyer thanks for the info and any more that you feel like posting. Hope you are still in the saddle. I tried for number one but ended up at number nine. Thanks again

 

[TWA Dude]

question for anyone that flies for American: If the rumors are true about 1000 more furloughs, how far back in calendar years will the most junior pilot be. I have a couple of former co-workers that fly there that I have lost touch with and I am just wondering if they will still be working. Thanks

With the announced "up to" 550 furloughs (ex-TWA only) the junior guy will be a 1996 hire. But don't worry about your friend unless he is in STL.

 

[waka]

Why is AA targeting the Fokker 100 for elimination? Is it the number of seats, efficiency, higher mx, etc? Just curious because it's a nice ride (quiet, roomy) as a passenger.

 

[machspeed]

if they use the terms "Shrinking to profitability" in their anouncement then as elmer fudd would say " be afraid be verrry verrry afraid". that was a popular phrase in the early 90's. They will also make you pay full price for KY.




machspeed