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American Pilots & Management Near a Labor Deal? Really?

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hey K! get back on facebook and stir some more trouble!

How you feeling today? Morning in America for you?

Man, booze, FB and an election....dangerous combo. My wife is about to divorce me for pi$$ing off half her friends. But the other half love me LOL.
 
There were no RJs. Only Dash 7s, ATPs, Fokker 50/60s etc. DC9s and F28 were considered mainline.



You ask the right question, if you just could tell us who started all this...


50 Seat Regional Jet Timeline

November 1987 Bombardier launches full advanced design phase of its Canadair Regional Jet
March 1988 Shorts announces it will develop a 44-seat jet known as the FJX
March 1989 Full go-ahead for the CRJ announced by Bombardier chief executive Laurent Beaudoin, with type having secured 56 commitments
June 1989 Bombardier agrees to buy Shorts, halting development of the FJX
May 1990 First firm contract for CRJ signed by Lufthansa, with 13 orders and 12 options in $250 million deal
February 1991 First flight of the CRJ
October 1992 Launch customer Lufthansa CityLine takes charge of first CRJ delivery
February 1994 Flight West Airlines becomes the first airline to place a firm order for the ERJ-145, for four aircraft
August 1995 First flight of the ERJ-145
September 1996 Continental Airlines places the largest aircraft order of ERJs - 250 aircraft
December 1996 First delivery of ERJ-145 to launch customer Continental ExpressJet
2006 Bombardier delivers last 50-seat CRJ and concentrates production on 70- to 100-seat CRJ700/900/1000 variants
2011 Embraer delivers last passenger ERJ-145, a Chinese-assembled aircraft for Hainan Airlines

And if Im not mistaken, American Airlines union gave up the Small jet flying to Eagle, and then the rest of the dominoes (Mainline carriers giving up Regional feed to get their new 777 or to keep their pensions etc) followed.
 
50 Seat Regional Jet Timeline

November 1987 Bombardier launches full advanced design phase of its Canadair Regional Jet
March 1988 Shorts announces it will develop a 44-seat jet known as the FJX
March 1989 Full go-ahead for the CRJ announced by Bombardier chief executive Laurent Beaudoin, with type having secured 56 commitments
June 1989 Bombardier agrees to buy Shorts, halting development of the FJX
May 1990 First firm contract for CRJ signed by Lufthansa, with 13 orders and 12 options in $250 million deal
February 1991 First flight of the CRJ
October 1992 Launch customer Lufthansa CityLine takes charge of first CRJ delivery
February 1994 Flight West Airlines becomes the first airline to place a firm order for the ERJ-145, for four aircraft
August 1995 First flight of the ERJ-145
September 1996 Continental Airlines places the largest aircraft order of ERJs - 250 aircraft
December 1996 First delivery of ERJ-145 to launch customer Continental ExpressJet
2006 Bombardier delivers last 50-seat CRJ and concentrates production on 70- to 100-seat CRJ700/900/1000 variants
2011 Embraer delivers last passenger ERJ-145, a Chinese-assembled aircraft for Hainan Airlines

And if Im not mistaken, American Airlines union gave up the Small jet flying to Eagle, and then the rest of the dominoes (Mainline carriers giving up Regional feed to get their new 777 or to keep their pensions etc) followed.

There's some big holes in your timeline concerning CRJ! It sounds like COEX made the mess BUT it was well before that! Sometime between 1992 and 1995 delta took a ton of those!
KBB
 
At this point in the game why would they make any deal with whoreton . Let the creditors know you wont deal with that dbag
 
You ask the right question, if you just could tell us who started all this...

Damn how am I supposed to concentrate on this thread with those bodacious.....in my face?

Anyway, the short answer is ALPA and APA! When they decided that they did not want to be seen flying those "NearJets" you could hear champagne corks popping all over the industries' management buildings.

NOW HEAR THIS!! Hang tough on scope, f#^% em! Burn the whole House down before you give that a$$wipe Horton another thing to separate and divide us. If we loose on this one, we may as well all jumpseat to Salt Lake now and start begging for an interview with SkyWest because that will be all that's left. (In case that offends Skywest drivers, it's unintentional. You are a great Regional but not a career job!)

AA remains DA (Delayed Airline) until we have a contract worthy of us. Enough is Enough. VOTE IT DOWN! :angryfire
 
The AA TA sucks. Vote it down!!!!! Just remember - you have leverage because there is a huuuuuuuge pilot shortage coming... Yeah, right. :laugh:
 
The AA TA sucks. Vote it down!!!!! Just remember - you have leverage because there is a huuuuuuuge pilot shortage coming... Yeah, right. :laugh:

Not sure what you are laughing at? There is no doubt that there will be a crunch for new pilots coming. The old guard will finally start hitting 65 next year and the new flight time regs and rest rules will demand more bodies as well. It may not be thousands of parked birds everywhere, but "qualified" pilots will finally have some choices for a change. It may not last forever but like a broken clock is right twice a day, even that blood sucker K. Darby might be on to something this time around.

No laughing matter, unless you mean it will be some of us laughing all the way to the bank. :cool:
 

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