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Flyer1015 said:
On an unrelated subject, why does Eagle even bother with a new hire medical exam? Why not just be like any other regional airline, and just require a current 1st class medical? No other regional but Eagle does a new hire medical exam. I'm sure Eagle could save a buck by getting rid of the med exam process. Again, no one else does it.
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I've wondered the same. How much more indepth is the AE physical compared to your average 1st class. Are there many who don't make it through the AE exam and what are some things which have caused some to fail.
 
Flyer1015 said:
On an unrelated subject, why does Eagle even bother with a new hire medical exam? Why not just be like any other regional airline, and just require a current 1st class medical? No other regional but Eagle does a new hire medical exam. I'm sure Eagle could save a buck by getting rid of the med exam process. Again, no one else does it.
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Not for sure, but may be an AMR thing and not totally ealge. Remember it is being done at AMR Medical.

Also may be a health/life insurance thing.?.? Maybe?.?
 
Well, technically, a company cannot deny you from being hired as a result of your medical exam, if you already hold and are *medically qualified* to continue holding your 1st class medical. I'm sure you could get the ADA to sue and help you. But lets not jump on the gun. Most people that I have heard that had a problem at the AMR medical had to go to their own doc and get results that proved they are ok. High blood pressure is an example. Another was failing the cog test, back when Eagle still did that. People had to get their own cog test done and it cost a lot.

Again, even if it is an AMR medical, Eagle should do away with it. Right now, AA isn't hiring. So why should AMR keep a staff of docs and nurses for their own in house medical exam for Eagle pilots? Since no other regional does this, I think it would make sense for Eagle to do away with it. Just require a current 1st class medical, and that should be all that's needed. It would work good for Eagle, think of the money they could save by not having a new hire medical exam.
 
Starscream said:
2 years 4 month hiring freeze and it will go to a 1/19/2004 hire to be exact :beer:
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Better then I thought so over night the upgrade will drop 28 months, plus all of the flowbies going through, so I guess that three years is very realistic.
 
Flyer1015 said:
It would work good for Eagle, think of the money they could save by not having a new hire medical exam.
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I think they do it to save money. They may be partially self-insured to help hold their premiums down. In return, they more thoroughly screen any new hires. Long term health issues are ridiculously expensive, with no relief in sight due to the spiraling cost of prescription drugs. Maybe AMR feels that if they identify a potential problem child early on they save the company money in the long run. Illegal? Probably, I'm not a lawyer. But how many starving CFI's have the time, money, and inclination to pursue an ADA lawsuit?
 
chignutsak said:
I think they do it to save money. They may be partially self-insured to help hold their premiums down. In return, they more thoroughly screen any new hires. Long term health issues are ridiculously expensive, with no relief in sight due to the spiraling cost of prescription drugs. Maybe AMR feels that if they identify a potential problem child early on they save the company money in the long run. Illegal? Probably, I'm not a lawyer. But how many starving CFI's have the time, money, and inclination to pursue an ADA lawsuit?
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Good point
 
chignutsak said:
I think they do it to save money. They may be partially self-insured to help hold their premiums down. In return, they more thoroughly screen any new hires. Long term health issues are ridiculously expensive, with no relief in sight due to the spiraling cost of prescription drugs. Maybe AMR feels that if they identify a potential problem child early on they save the company money in the long run. Illegal? Probably, I'm not a lawyer. But how many starving CFI's have the time, money, and inclination to pursue an ADA lawsuit?
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But if that is *truly* the case, why doesn't every other regional airline do it?

I would agree with you if I saw most regionals doing this, but Eagle is the oddball in that sense.
 
Flyer1015 said:
But if that is *truly* the case, why doesn't every other regional airline do it?

I would agree with you if I saw most regionals doing this, but Eagle is the oddball in that sense.
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Most regionals pockets are not nearly as deep as AE, they can not afford it.
And the AE medical is way more in depth then your 1st class. When the doc was done with me I felt that I needed to take him out to dinner and a movie.
 
AMR will try to pump you up about upgrades and movement, etc. Something to consider: Eagle is very limited by scope. The 50 seat jet will go the way of the dinosaur, especially that POS embraer. APA will not give on any scope; contract negotiations are going to be ugly. Many AA pilots want to burn the place down. Recalls at AA will likely slow down to a crawl. All not good things. As I said before, stay away from eagle.
 
LewisU_Pilot said:
AE is no longer doing the medical exam. They got rid of it.
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I thought they were no longer doing the cognitive exam, but still doing the rest of the entire physical exam (the new hire exam on day 2 of your interview).

When did they get rid of it? Is this info directly from CC?
 
well don't I feel lucky to be one of the last to go through that medical.
 
spacecadet1 said:
AMR will try to pump you up about upgrades and movement, etc. Something to consider: Eagle is very limited by scope. The 50 seat jet will go the way of the dinosaur, especially that POS embraer. APA will not give on any scope; contract negotiations are going to be ugly. Many AA pilots want to burn the place down. Recalls at AA will likely slow down to a crawl. All not good things. As I said before, stay away from eagle.
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I certainly cannot totally disagree with you, but who knows what can happen? There are plenty of airlines that we all thought would be great places to be several years ago that have turned out to be not such great places to be. Anyways, where would you suggest people NOT stay away from? Eagle has its issues as does any company but the ride has been good so far for me. The long upgrades suck but I am sure there are some other companies out there that make eagle look like a good alternative.
 

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