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Hi, there is a period after "40 more" meaning you stop reading. Then "From Embraer" has a comma, meaning you pause. Welcome to reading 101....???
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And that is why the ramps look like the local State Prison had a work release program.
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December 20, 2013
Message from the Chairman
Fellow Eagle Pilots:
Yesterday we received a formal proposal from Eagle Management regarding the placement of large RJs on our property in exchange for additional concessions to achieve the company?s structure objectives. The proposal is extensive and touches a number of sections in our collective bargaining agreement. We briefed the MEC immediately following the meeting and engaged in a very spirited debate on the merits of the proposed changes. The MEC debate on a response will continue up through our meeting on January 2nd when the MEC will determine how to respond to Eagle management. To allow you the opportunity to advise your LEC representatives, the following is a general summary of their offer:
Potential Upside
The company would agree to increase the "metering" commitment under the existing 824 agreement from 20 to 30 beginning in September 2014. They would still send 20 per month or 50% of the AA new hire classes until then (subject to metering and ALPA?s grievance)
They would increase the percentage of new hire obligations under the "protected pilot" agreement to 50% from the current 35% and send a minimum of 30 per month if AA hires 60 or more that month.
The amended terms of the protected pilot agreement would be extended to all pilots hired after October 11, 2011 and to any Eagle new hires.
Downside
The agreement would extend until 2024 with little opportunity to amend it.
We would have to transition to a compensation model that incorporates wage caps for Captains at 12 years and 4 years for First Officers very similar to what the pilots at PSA recently agreed to. The transition would occur over roughly a four-year period.
Per diem would be reduced by $.20 on the date of signing with some incremental increases.
The employee contribution for medical coverage would increase by 5% in about a year.
We would accrue vacation at a slightly different rate and would lose the fifth week altogether.
Allow the company to train crews on the EMB 175 months before we receive it and then return them to their previous equipment until the deliveries begin.
We would adopt a 401k plan and sick accrual system that mirrors the current PSA contract.
Our current profit sharing plan would be suspended.
The proposal only guarantees a fleet of 60 aircraft
We plan to post the details of PSA's provisions on the Eagle ALPA website as well as a contract comparison of other regional airlines that are more similar to our operation.
The company indicated to us that, without what they consider to be a cost competitive agreement, they will place the aircraft with a competing carrier and we would become "Comair II".
It's important to be patient while the MEC digests the offer and determines how best to respond to management. It is equally important that you engage your LEC representatives to provide the perspective they will need to make that determination. There are many moving pieces in a process like this, so the details are likely to change. While the MEC has committed to working in an expedient manner, if there is an agreement with the company, it will be subject to pilot ratification.
I'll keep you updated as we proceed toward a response.
Fly safe.
Bill Sprague
MEC Chairman
Message from the Chairman
Fellow Eagle Pilots:
Yesterday we received a formal proposal from Eagle Management regarding the placement of large RJs on our property in exchange for additional concessions to achieve the company?s structure objectives. The proposal is extensive and touches a number of sections in our collective bargaining agreement. We briefed the MEC immediately following the meeting and engaged in a very spirited debate on the merits of the proposed changes. The MEC debate on a response will continue up through our meeting on January 2nd when the MEC will determine how to respond to Eagle management. To allow you the opportunity to advise your LEC representatives, the following is a general summary of their offer:
Potential Upside
The company would agree to increase the "metering" commitment under the existing 824 agreement from 20 to 30 beginning in September 2014. They would still send 20 per month or 50% of the AA new hire classes until then (subject to metering and ALPA?s grievance)
They would increase the percentage of new hire obligations under the "protected pilot" agreement to 50% from the current 35% and send a minimum of 30 per month if AA hires 60 or more that month.
The amended terms of the protected pilot agreement would be extended to all pilots hired after October 11, 2011 and to any Eagle new hires.
Downside
The agreement would extend until 2024 with little opportunity to amend it.
We would have to transition to a compensation model that incorporates wage caps for Captains at 12 years and 4 years for First Officers very similar to what the pilots at PSA recently agreed to. The transition would occur over roughly a four-year period.
Per diem would be reduced by $.20 on the date of signing with some incremental increases.
The employee contribution for medical coverage would increase by 5% in about a year.
We would accrue vacation at a slightly different rate and would lose the fifth week altogether.
Allow the company to train crews on the EMB 175 months before we receive it and then return them to their previous equipment until the deliveries begin.
We would adopt a 401k plan and sick accrual system that mirrors the current PSA contract.
Our current profit sharing plan would be suspended.
The proposal only guarantees a fleet of 60 aircraft
We plan to post the details of PSA's provisions on the Eagle ALPA website as well as a contract comparison of other regional airlines that are more similar to our operation.
The company indicated to us that, without what they consider to be a cost competitive agreement, they will place the aircraft with a competing carrier and we would become "Comair II".
It's important to be patient while the MEC digests the offer and determines how best to respond to management. It is equally important that you engage your LEC representatives to provide the perspective they will need to make that determination. There are many moving pieces in a process like this, so the details are likely to change. While the MEC has committed to working in an expedient manner, if there is an agreement with the company, it will be subject to pilot ratification.
I'll keep you updated as we proceed toward a response.
Fly safe.
Bill Sprague
MEC Chairman
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I'm jealous. You actually have reps that work for you, not the other way around.
Stay strong. Look at the absurdity of the situation--right now, every single regional management is threatening to "Comair" their company if their pilots don't agree to work for less so management can earn more. It's not even like the airline industry is struggling right now.
They can't shut us ALL down. You would think having a common union would allow us to coordinate a common defense, one of just saying NO all at once. Too bad ALPA is bought and paid for; nevertheless, we need to do this ourselves, one at a time, just on principle.
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Name one industry besides the regional airlines that a CEO or Company Leader will come to there employee's saying we have excited new equipment coming that will allow our company that's making money now to even make more money with the use of this new bigger equipment........... But first you have to take a paycut to use it???? LOL.... Most people would say What the F'!!! Hell no!!! But not the Regional Pilot sector where we've been screwing each other for years. Here's your sign!!! PSA is already holding the sign....... Who's next?
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If back in 2000 the Delta MEC Chuck Giambuso (sp) and ALPA would have pulled their head out of their ass they could have stopped all of this.
Oh well...
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Trouble is the first CRJ's came in the early 1990's and those responsible are long gone....
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True!! But there's no need at this time to be voting in concessionary contracts.
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With the crummy pay at regionals, there was "no need at this time", or any other time to, "be voting in concessionary contracts"
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