American Airlines crash in Jamaica

[Bruno82]

I heard (rumor) that the crew was at 14hrs duty and near 7.5hr flying time. I don't know if that's true at all though.

 

[MCDU]

What happened in Charlotte?

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/topstories/story/1125715.html

 

[Capt. Caucasian]

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[Metrojet]

Flew in there a few times last week, one of them at night from MIA. There are a few gotcha's on the ILS... the LOC is offset to compensate for a huge tower, I think the ALS to 12 is out (and I don't remember there being a PAPI or VASI), and there is a helluva black hole effect with water surrounding about 80% of the runway. IF they had not hit the Manley "highway" and slid into the water... yikes!

Glad to hear there are no fatalities. Best of luck to the crew that will have to face all the crap awaiting them...

I went into Grand Cayman yesterday afternoon and they had a little low pressure system down in the islands - sort of like a mini tropical depression - nothing bad - but high easterly winds and lots of rain.

Haven't been to KIN lately, but is the runway grooved - many places down there are not - so if they had a lot of standing water on the runway - and KIN ATC probably wouldn't even mention that or even be aware - and it is dark - you are definitely on your own at these airports when you leave the MIA FIR especially in an emergency.

Sure glad everyone is OK.

Metrojet

 

[Metrojet]

They must have done a slam dunk arrival all the way from FL 410!! Was there a gas station at the end?

Ya know - we all might think stupid comments like that, but to say it?
It could have been your friends in that plane.

 

[clippyrip]

http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/

Looking at the flight deck I'd be surprised if the pilots were unscathed.

 

[Carl_Spackler]

It will be interesting to watch the effects of this from the media and politicians.

Also, I will give props to the first person who posts a link to an article about this accident that also mentions Sully.

 

[Networ-King]

Ya gotta love the retards at CNN:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americas/12/22/jamaica.plane/index.html

The headline is Jetliner 'misses' runway.

Why are they retards? Usually I'd agree with you, but his time they didn't speculate on anything "as of yet" and they didn't get a stupid aviation private pilot "professional" to give a play by stupid play of what they think happened. Glad nobody was hurt, but it does look like the plane snapped in three different spots.

And to the d ou chebag with the gas station remark, get a f*&king life. Karma is a b!tch my friend, so keep it up.

Net

 

[crxpilot]

Did they have their laptops out? What would Sully do?

 

[SuperFLUF]

http://www.avherald.com/h?article=424a11b1&opt=0

Looks like heavy rain and a tailwind were factors. Every time I land in heavy rain, I curse the idiots who are responsible for removing rain repellant from the a/c.

 

[Abernathy]

Any landing you can walk away from... Could have been worse I guess. You all remember what happened to TAM in Sao Paulo a couple years ago..

 

[Frank Lorenzo]

Doesn't look bad.

That should buff right out.

 

[get2flyin]

Doesn't look bad.

That should buff right out.

That might just be the quote of the thread. LOL

 

[CLARKGRSWOLD]

What was the METAR at time of arrival ?

 

[CessnaFan]

Gotta love the press....


""The pilot couldn't stop the plane," one male passenger who opted not to be named, told the Observer."

 

[C-150ETOPS]

First Charlotte, now Kingston. At this rate the AMR pilots are really creating CHAOS. I guess slow taxiing has not done the trick. Time to get that contract and maybe they will stop destroying AMR planes.

M

How's it feel MCDU?

Because I really can't understand little internet dweebs who sit at a keyboard typing with one finger while playing with their M&M sized stones with the other, making comments they're too gutless to make in public.

If you made that comment in a bar with a bunch of AA guys, you'd get your faced bashed in, and rightly so.

 

[Quiet Flight]

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[Jim Smyth]

http://www.avherald.com/h?article=424a11b1&opt=0

Looks like heavy rain and a tailwind were factors. Every time I land in heavy rain, I curse the idiots who are responsible for removing rain repellant from the a/c.

I used to use the rain repellent all the time, it worked extremely well when it wasnt all gummed up. So well that after you had a good coating of it on the window you didnt need the wipers any more. Its amazing how many Pilots didnt want to use it at all. I know guys that used to carry RainX with them after they removed the repellent. Next best thing if you were going to be in heavy rain down the line but you just needed to plan a head. I agree, it was a Bad Mistake to remove the repellent.

 

[samballs]

Did they have their laptops out? What would Sully do?

Take the controls, look for the wrong place to land, and ignore the fo. Then whore himself out.

 

[ableone]

http://www.avherald.com/h?article=424a11b1&opt=0

Looks like heavy rain and a tailwind were factors. Every time I land in heavy rain, I curse the idiots who are responsible for removing rain repellant from the a/c.

Concur.