American Airlines crash in Jamaica

[luckytohaveajob]

Hopefully the accident will be fuel for the fatigue fire not another pointless rain ex argument.

If you want rain ex on the wind screen put a bottle in your flight bag. Prior to flight open the window. Apply liberally with paper towels from the lav. Close the window. Fly the flight. Repeat above steps as needed between flights. Or if your to lazy to do the above write it up and have mx do it for you even if your at an outstation but good luck with the pencil whipping mx.

American 331 landed half way down a runway off an ILS. An accident like this is not about Rain Ex. It is about poor decisions during critical phases of flight no common to accident free pilots fatigued by a stressful day of diversions and weather.

Keep your eyes on the ball and quit looking in left field giving the CNNtards, USA Scare Today, and any other paid for government official an excuse to keep a bad system dangerous.

 

[aa73]

So AA doesn't get cancellation pay?

Nope, unless it is within the last 7 days of the month... and even then you have to put yourself on "makeup" flying list (line pilot's type of reserve) and make a reasonable attempt at flying a trip that does open up.

It sucks.

 

[SuperFLUF]

....American 331 landed half way down a runway off an ILS. An accident like this is not about Rain Ex. It is about poor decisions during critical phases of flight no common to accident free pilots fatigued by a stressful day of diversions and weather.

Keep your eyes on the ball and quit looking in left field giving the CNNtards, USA Scare Today, and any other paid for government official an excuse to keep a bad system dangerous.

How do you know they landed "half way down a runway"?
If they did land outside the touchdown zone, there could be many contributing factors. One could be that they couldn't see **** in heavy rain at night and thus did not know they landed outside the touchdown zone or how much runway was remaining?

Certainly, many factors will come to light. Dismissing a link in the chain to concentrate on another, does not work toward eliminating or minimizing ALL of the casual factors.

How do you think the Feds look upon you putting rainX you bought at the autoparts store or grocery store on the windshield? It certainly is not a fix to the problem, no more than pilots guzzling energy drinks are a solution to the fatigue problem.

 

[SpauldingSmails]

Doesn't look bad.

That should buff right out.

Ah Frank, they aren't losing an airplane, they're gaining a cabin trainer.

 

[bubbers44]

Nobody knows where they touched down. They were both very good pilots so dought that happened. I know waiting for the facts is hard but since we have no data we will have to be patient. The fact nobody died is great news. I stand behind the pilots.

 

[bubbers44]

doubt is how it is spelled, sorry.

 

[OurMoney1]

I too stand behind the pilots. These guy were experienced. This wasnt their first time seeing a rain soaked runway in that boeing stretch. The carribean nations are notorious for not reporting accurate conditions and failing to notam appropriately. Island fever....It will end up being another series of events that stacked the odds on these two guys. The US carriers should all rally and demand grooved runways or no service. This action would threaten their tourism industry and get the changes needed to ensure our pilots aren't walking into a mouse traps.

 

[SneakyJake]

tru dat

 

[bubbers44]

Even though this runway was ungrooved they whould have been able to stop. When the FDR and CVR is available maybe we will know what happened. I have been a captain with a new FO in a 727 landing there and at 3,000 ft said either land or go around now. He landed. I hope the pilots were not the cause of this accident. We will have to see how it turns out.

 

[SuperFLUF]

Even though this runway was ungrooved they whould have been able to stop...

A 72 would've probably been able to stop. A 737? Its hard to say, but if the braking was less than "fair" probably not.
The 727 sized 73's don't stop as well as the 727's did.