Am I a dummy?

[wrxpilot]

The CFI hasn't worked much on his craft. If he had, he'd know that a turning slip has been used for decades as a technique to lose altitude during the turn from base to final. I've done it hundreds of times in a variety of GA airplanes and I'm still here.

This CFI has confused inside rudder, (A bad thing) with a perfectly acceptable maneuver that if memory serves me correctly, is in the Flight Training Handbook.
Ask this guy how a turning slip increases the likelihood of a stall spin accident. He won't be able to, he's just parroting something he thinks he heard somebody tell him once.

PS If you want a good laugh, have your friend make his explanation in front of a Pitts, Stearman or Waco owner.

The difference being that the "inside rudder" turn is used to (mistakenly) quicken a turn while up elevator is incorrectly used to correct for the pitch down effect right? Basically the two are the same except one has nose down (the slip) and the other (bad, evil, death) inside turn is nose up?

 

[wrxpilot]

Like many others here, I learned to fly in a J-3 cub, which had no flaps, and slipping was a way of life. Over the years, however, I've seen a lot of cracks in vertical stabilizer attach points and brackets...all attributable to slipping in the aircraft. I've seen this in aircrafr ranging from small single engine airplanes to lare four engine airplanes (we used to use a lot of slipping in the heavy tankers to get them into the spaces where we made our drops.

That's an uncomforting thought... Whatever happened to the cracking on the 152s? I think it was on the vert stabilizer or something wasn't it?

 

[avbug]

It was the attach brackets.

Inside or outside rudder doesn't make much difference, so long as you fly the airplane. Using rudder to get around quicker doesn't speed up the turn...bank steeper if that's the goal.

An old wives tale among pilots suggests that outside rudder is good, inside bad, but that's ridiculous. Slipping good, skidding bad, along those lines. Not so. One may be a little more comfortable for the user, but the issue is aircraft control.

If you're going to stall and lose control in the turn does it really matter if you depart controlled flight over the top of of the turn or to the inside of the turn? No, not really...neither does it matter if you're carrying inside or outside rudder. Fly the airplane and don't let departure occur, and you won't see any particular difference.

Where you do see a difference is that your turning controls are the ailerons, not the rudder. Banking into the turn and using outside rudder makes more sense...if you're going to slip, slip to the inside of the turn, which is accomplishing the goal. If you're skidding, you're fighting yourself...you're trying to turn left but skidding right...sort of a turn inefficiency, if you will. As far as control, however, and safety, neither one is more dangerous than the other. So long as you remain the one controlling the airplane, and don't let it control you.

 

[Cutlass1287]

Since I only fly a C-172, I almost always fly the VASI white over white, since most of the fields I fly into are long enough for jet aircraft. I've had way to many engine issues to not leave myself enough altitude to get down safely. A lot of CFIs I fly with don't like me flying this way, they prefer the comfortable red over white. However, in a small airplane like this there is PLENTY of room to fly the approach a little high, and then get down, at most of the fields I fly into.