Alternate career path

[T-REX]

I was trying to bite my lip--but c'mon Pilotyip how can you tell these kids to drop out of school? Yes! there are a lot of good companies out there that do not require a degree but why limit yourself The way the majors are going, those top jobs are just going to be tougher and tougher to get with plenty of qualified jet pilots out there. Why put yourself at a disadvantage??

 

[pilotyip]

I am not encouraging anyone in the 95% who feel college is right for them to drop out, I am only encouraging the 5% who do not want to go to college they can still have a career flying. Big difference, see previous thread on why a college degree is so important to a potential knowledge worker.

 

[Vik]

College is great .. beer, parties, wemen! I can't wait to retire and go again!

 

[Fly BI]

Yip,

I'm with you. I've been working on my degree piecemeal for the past decade. My military service and experience at several aviation companies (pre-pilot) has really built character for me. I truly resent the fact that I need a stupid piece of paper to be qualified to be a professional pilot. That said, I cannot get around the prejudices of an HR department. So I slowly work toward that degree with online classes and a bitter attitide. I've just accepted that I have to get it done. Maybe when I have enough time to get on at FedEx, I'll have it done. I just wish my life's experiences would count for more.

...gin & vermouth...with a splash of olive juice. Now that's a martini!

 

[BoilerUP]

HAHA today was my last day... Just a half year behind ..... I was more into the girls and party sceen, and still am. For my last year I did the homeschool thing. I go when I want. I think I learned more doing that then in the reg Highschool. But the main thing I was getting social security because my Dad is a old timer at 67. 800$ a month helps out a lot for paying for the gas. But there was alot of hot girls and that doesnt help any.

ummmmmmmmmmmm...

You didn't graduate high school on time? You had to be homeschooled in order to graduate high school?? And you want to be a professional pilot??? WTF OVER

Your daddy bought you a plane to fly and builds time and even pays for the gas, and you can't even get yourself together enough to graduate HIGH SCHOOL on time. "Because i was more into the girls and party scene". Dude you can sleep through 6 of 7 hours of class in high school and still pass with a 2.0 if you do half your homework. I know, I was there not too long ago.

I'm not resentful of you because your parents bought you an airplane, but I admit I am envious. Things would have been much easier for me if my parents were into aviation that much. I just hope you realize daddy's money won't always be there to help you along. Good luck in your future career, from what I have read, you may need it.

 

[AZaviator]

If you loose your medical with a degree in avaition techology that is 7 years old, are you any better off than a guy without a degree?

Yes you are much better off.

My degree is about 5 years old. (I'm not sure what that has to do with anything)....but if I lost my medical, the knowledge, skills, and countless number of other things I learned in college will help me continue a career in Aviation, whether it be management, ATC, flight ops, etc, etc. I don't feel I would have as much knowledge in the industry if I had not attained a degree in Aviation.

 

[Flyin Tony]

ummmmmmmmmmmm...

You didn't graduate high school on time? You had to be homeschooled in order to graduate high school?? And you want to be a professional pilot??? WTF OVER

Your daddy bought you a plane to fly and builds time and even pays for the gas, and you can't even get yourself together enough to graduate HIGH SCHOOL on time. "Because i was more into the girls and party scene". Dude you can sleep through 6 of 7 hours of class in high school and still pass with a 2.0 if you do half your homework. I know, I was there not too long ago.

I'm not resentful of you because your parents bought you an airplane, but I admit I am envious. Things would have been much easier for me if my parents were into aviation that much. I just hope you realize daddy's money won't always be there to help you along. Good luck in your future career, from what I have read, you may need it.

First off I went to homeschool because I was going to miss alot of school. Due to my grandma going on to a better place (I dont like the bring that up because its kinda hard) and also motorcycle racing. You can't goto a "full time highschool" if your going to miss weeks at a time.

Also because my Dad is old he get social security that almost pays for the plane, well kinda. If I didnt say in highschool for a few more months then it would be like a pay cut. Also he works full time and I dont see him all through the week. Only on the weekends.

And WTF does having to graduate high school on time have anything with being a professional pilot. Nothing I have learned in highschool has helped me with anything to do with flying.

Who gives a Flying F if my "Daddy" bought a plane so I could build time? If you drive in LA everyday and it takes 4hours to get home sometimes, why not fly and only take 30mins.

 

[English]

Hey Tony, I thought the Comanche was your dad's plane?

 

[Flyin Tony]

His name is on the registration

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Grandma got run over by a reindeer, comin' home from your house Christmas Eve, you may think theres no such thing as Santa, but as for me and Grandpa, we believe...

 

[Xfr8dog]

Flying Tony,

Is that an RM250 you have for an avatar? The picture is kinda fuzzy.

 

[Flyin Tony]

yep

 

[bobbysamd]

Alternate career path as kool-aid

The thing you never answer, Yip, is who's going to hire some 18-year-old pilot to fly turbine equipment. I realize you have some 20-year-old working for you who lucked into a Metro job. I emphasize "lucked." Ordinarily, it takes at least a few years, a good amount of hours and real credentials, i.e., education beyond high school, to get jobs like that. Moreover, the $100K jobs you promise at the end of the rainbow aren't given to just anyone. Those who get these jobs are well-qualified, top people who don't have certificates, ratings and TJ PIC on their resumes only.

Whether you realize it or not, Yip, impressionable teenagers and younger people who want to be pilots read this message board. Yet, you insist on painting a misleading picture of aviation career-building. Once more, coming from someone like you, who hires pilots, which would give you the patina of credibility, that is irresponsible - primarily because you have refused to fill-in the gap about how to get the job(s).

 

[321 busdriver]

Hey pilotyip. You're right on the money. You can definitely get a flying job without a degree but being selected for an interview becomes much more difficult. If you have 5000 hours for instance and no degree you're going to be competeing with guys that have 2500 hours and a 4 year. And so on and so on. If you just want to fly, then build as much time as you can and you will get a decent ( not highly paid, as if their are any of those left ) flying job. If you absolutely want to work for a major, get your degree. One other thing that will look good is working toward your degree online while you are building time. Very few of us have the resources to due both, but nothing looks better to a potential employer than a person who is willing to put forth the effort to do whatever it takes to get hired. Lastly, update your resume every 3-6 months whether you add 5 credits or 50 hours. Do this religiously! I have been with a major for 19 years and I wish you all the best!

I am not encouraging anyone in the 95% who feel college is right for them to drop out, I am only encouraging the 5% who do not want to go to college they can still have a career flying. Big difference, see previous thread on why a college degree is so important to a potential knowledge worker.

 

[pilotyip]

What proof would Bobby like, Names, DOB's, SSN#'s, home ph #'s? In addition, what percent makes the numbers significant? 5%, 10%, 25% who make it without a college degree? What period is needed to make the proof acceptable, last year, last three years, and last month? On the other hand, is there no proof that would meet Bobby's requirement of success without a college degree?