Have you seen Spirit's concessionary contract that we struck for?
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
— Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride
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Have you seen Spirit's concessionary contract that we struck for?
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
— Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride
You got your own problems, ALPA screwed you boys over as well.
So in a way Air Tran has a "concessionary" contract as well, for a couple more years at least.
Pinacle_128, Do you get paid directly from ALPA to spout this propaganda?
Pinacle_128, Do you get paid directly from ALPA to spout this propaganda?
I'm o.k. with that because I believe in supporting the efforts of the smaller pilot groups to get a better contract.
First, I did walk your picket lines. And it wasn't just me, either. You had ALPA pilots from all over this country, including from airlines like Delta and United that you criticize, walking your picket lines. ALPA pilots backed you 110%.
As far as the few areas that you specify, no contract is ever going to have everything in your favor. You're always going to have to give management a few items so they can save face when they give you a CBA that is a radical improvement. And whether you want to admit it or not, your new CBA was a radical improvement over your previous agreement. Single items may not be what you wanted, but the overall deal was much better than your previous deal.
As far as the premium pay, you may want to ask your fellow pilots why they're picking up open time at straight pay instead of refusing to do so and forcing management into a corner to give you back your premium pay.
You both have no idea what we struck for at Spirit, we do make less than we used to and work more to make the same, that is concessionary! I have the W2 to prove it! We lost all premium pay, that's right, we get straight pay for working on a day off or more than our line! I do not appreciate the efforts of ALPA, raising the retirement age, dues, representing the interests of Delta and United while walking all over the little guy. Spirit first year pay went down by $2 in first year pay!!! That is concessionary! I have both contracts if you are interested in them. Our health care doubled in price and goes up 7% per year! It was a locked in rate, concessionary! Reserve line holders can be moved around up to 12 hours, that was not in the previous contract. Reserve line holders have 3 hours to depart now, it used to be 3 hours to show. Our 401k match is still 8%. I could go on and on, but since you seem to know so much more about our contract than a pilot actually working here and walking the picket line, I will let you judge. Oh yea, you will claim our pay went up, but why is my W2 less? It's called line averaging. BTW, we struck for ALPA, and the socialists that want everyone to make the same and no more than 72 hours a month, except for our MEC members which drop trips pay protected with our dues enabling some of them to achieve over 150 hours a month! Yes that really does happen here at Spirit, so until you actually know what goes on here, leave it to those who actually work here.