ALPA BOD to vote on subjecting 401(k) to dues

[castle bravo]

http://www.mcgeedigitalmedia.com/alpa/ALPA_Continental.wmv

 

[castle bravo]

You might want to contact your reps NOW.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Now is a little late but still workable...

The time to be politicaly involved in your Airline Career was a long time ago....

 

[gutshotdraw]

What? Did Nancy Pelosi take over the ALPA BOD? She wants to tax 401K's too.

 

[Captain Overs]

I guess someone has to pay for Bush's drunken spending. He claims he's sober, but seriously, no sober person blows money on the things and in the manner he does.

 

[Zoneload]

ALPA is paying for Bush's spending?

 

[BeachBummer]

ALPA is paying for Bush's spending?

Well yea, someone has to pay for it. Airline pilots work less and make more money than everyone. Hot chicks in every port, limo rides to 5 star resort........

 

[QOL_is_great:)]

What? Did Nancy Pelosi take over the ALPA BOD? She wants to tax 401K's too.

Not only her, but most of the Dems on Capital Hill to include one presidental hopeful who didn't spend any time in the Navy as a pilot. They also want to hit ya in many other forms (taxes) too.

McCain vs. Obama on Taxes
Which April 15 would you rather have?

​

​

Current Law​

​

McCain​

​

Obama​

Top Tax Rate​

35%​

35%​

39.6%​

Lowest Tax Rate​

10%​

10%​

15%​

Capital Gains Rate​

15%​

15%​

20%​

Dividends Rate​

15%​

15%​

39.6%​

Death Tax​

0% by 2010
(Repealed)​

15%/$10 million ​

55%/$1 million​

Marriage Penalty ​

None Under
$150,000​

None Under $150,000​

Full from Dollar One​

Child Tax Credit​

$1000​

$1000​

$500​

AMT Rate ​

28%​

0% (Repealed)​

28%​

Self-Employment Rate ​

37.9%​

37.9%​

54.9%​

Corporate Income Tax ​

35%​

25%​

35%​

Business Infrastructure ​

Long and Complex Depreciation​

Full Expensing​

Long and Complex Depreciation​

It's clear that under Obama, just about everybody suffers a needlessly punitive tax hike. Even if you're lucky enough to not see yourself on this list, you'll still be paying. In fact, it's almost worse for the "middle class" with Obama's plan, because those hikes will be hidden in the form of higher prices for the stuff you buy, the denied raise you were expecting and probably deserve, or the layoff you or someone in your family may endure as the result of a severe recession. Surely a man as suspicious of corporations as Obama is realizes that corporations don't pay taxes. He can hike their taxes all he wants, but it still only means higher prices for all of us who need to buy stuff from these companies.

As the lessons of The Great Depression clearly demonstrate, the last thing you want to do in response to a weak economy is raise taxes and get all protectionist on trade -- yet that's exactly what Obama proposes, like Hoover did in '32, and in direct contrast to his forward campaign message.

And John McCain? Well, he gets it. McCain's policy is much more in line with his slogan "Reform, Prosperity, Peace".

With Obama, all we can do is hope that he changes his policy to one we can believe in.

 

[Beetle007]

I'm assuming you guys are talking about ALPA wanting to take dues out of our 401K contribution (and any company match). I have also heard that ALPA is talking about taking dues out of our pre-tax dollars instead of post-tax.

ALPA is trying to get more of our money...not the government (like some of the responses imply)

 

[~~~^~~~]

Wouldn't taking the money pre-tax save us from having to itemize the dues expense?

For the few pilots that do not itemize, seems like a good change.

Sorry if I'm off topic. I'm not opining on the 401K dues issue.

 

[profit]

Warning!

FOX NEWS IDIOT ALERT

Not only her, but most of the Dems on Capital Hill to include one presidental hopeful who didn't spend any time in the Navy as a pilot. They also want to hit ya in many other forms (taxes) too.

McCain vs. Obama on Taxes
Which April 15 would you rather have?

Current Law

McCain

Obama
Top Tax Rate
35%
35%
39.6%
Lowest Tax Rate
10%
10%
15%
Capital Gains Rate
15%
15%
20%
Dividends Rate
15%
15%
39.6%
Death Tax
0% by 2010
(Repealed)
15%/$10 million
55%/$1 million
Marriage Penalty
None Under
$150,000
None Under $150,000
Full from Dollar One
Child Tax Credit
$1000
$1000
$500
AMT Rate
28%
0% (Repealed)
28%
Self-Employment Rate
37.9%
37.9%
54.9%
Corporate Income Tax
35%
25%
35%
Business Infrastructure
Long and Complex Depreciation
Full Expensing
Long and Complex Depreciation​

​

​

It's clear that under Obama, just about everybody suffers a needlessly punitive tax hike. Even if you're lucky enough to not see yourself on this list, you'll still be paying. In fact, it's almost worse for the "middle class" with Obama's plan, because those hikes will be hidden in the form of higher prices for the stuff you buy, the denied raise you were expecting and probably deserve, or the layoff you or someone in your family may endure as the result of a severe recession. Surely a man as suspicious of corporations as Obama is realizes that corporations don't pay taxes. He can hike their taxes all he wants, but it still only means higher prices for all of us who need to buy stuff from these companies.

As the lessons of The Great Depression clearly demonstrate, the last thing you want to do in response to a weak economy is raise taxes and get all protectionist on trade -- yet that's exactly what Obama proposes, like Hoover did in '32, and in direct contrast to his forward campaign message.

And John McCain? Well, he gets it. McCain's policy is much more in line with his slogan "Reform, Prosperity, Peace".

With Obama, all we can do is hope that he changes his policy to one we can believe in.

 

[Beetle007]

Let me phrase it another way. I have heard that ALPA wants to take their percentage out of our gross income. In other words, they won't change the percent, but they will just take that percent from more of your money.

This is what ALPA is trying to do with the 401(k). They are trying to take more of our money.

 

[Freebrd]

This is what ALPA is trying to do with the 401(k). They are trying to take more of our money.

Bastards!

 

[glasspilot1]

Well, ALPA cronies have to make up for all the membership numbers they're losing (TWA, USAIR and others) somehow!

 

[Da Vinci]

what alpa is doing is incredibly offensive considering our current situation. Their average salaries are more than the average salaries of the people they represent. It is incomprehensible.

Name Title Salary Benefits& Other TotalCompensation


Duane Woerth President $ 351,186 $ 136,744 $ 487,930
Jalmer Johnson General Manager $ 389,238 $ 4,532 $ 393,770

Bruce York Dir Representation $ 348,955 $ 35,617 $ 384,572
Jonathan Cohen Chief Counsel&dir, Legal $ 366,736 $ 3,213 $ 369,949

Don Skiados Director, Communications $ 306,635 $ 4,752 $ 311,387
Kevin Barnhurst Director, Finance $ 309,429 $ 1,729 $ 311,158

Paul Hallisay Director, Gov't Affairs $ 295,943 $ 6,195 $ 302,138
William Roberts Asst Dir Representation $ 287,391 $ 11,944 $ 299,335

Jim Johnson Managing Attorney, Legal $ 277,013 $ 19,828 $ 296,841
Stephen Crable Asst Dir Representation $ 266,107 $ 17,407 $ 283,514

Seth Rosen Director, Ipsc $ 236,488 $ 46,862 $ 283,350
Keith Hagy Director Eng & Air Safety $ 268,112 $ 4,410 $ 272,522

Jeffrey Small Sr Contr Admin/mec Coord $ 238,517 $ 32,145 $ 270,662
Gene Granof Managing Attorney, Legal $ 264,519 $ 4,443 $ 268,962

Liz Koby Managing Attorney $ 244,656 $ 18,328 $ 262,984
Jerry Anker Managing Attorney, Legal $ 261,212 $ 1,764 $ 262,976

Jim Wilson Asst Dir Representation $ 251,189 $ 11,582 $ 262,771
Dave Vance Director, Retir & Ins $ 257,048 $ 3,391 $ 260,439

Ana Mcahron-schulz Director,econ&fin Anal $ 211,946 $ 27,592 $ 239,538
Bob Christy Mgr, Economic&financial $ 211,096 $ 23,513 $ 234,609
Robert Nichols Sr Contr Admin/mec Coord $ 225,090 $ 6,477 $ 231,567
Patrick Brennaman Sr Contr Admin/mec Coord $ 226,442 $ 3,021 $ 229,463
Russ Bailey Senior Attorney $ 223,322 $ 2,825 $ 226,147
Stephen Nagrotsky Sr Contract Administrator $ 209,270 $ 7,402 $ 216,672
Russell Woody Sr Benefits Attorney $ 205,382 $ 10,019 $ 215,401
Richard Domholt Sr Contract Administrator $ 200,764 $ 12,612 $ 213,376
Charlie Murphy Director, It & Service $ 208,715 $ 1,047 $ 209,762
Marcus Migliore Senior Attorney $ 203,160 $ 852 $ 204,012
Clay Warner Senior Attorney $ 201,639 $ 1,900 $ 203,539
Bob Lipsey Pension Inv Coordinator $ 181,595 $ 18,251 $ 199,846
Art La Flamme Sr Representative $ 184,738 $ 11,416 $ 196,154
Steve Hodgson Sr Field Representative $ 180,438 $ 9,282 $ 189,720
John Schleder Sr Contract Administrator $ 183,983 $ 3,517 $ 187,500
Rob Plunkett Sr Contract Administrator $ 184,118 $ 1,422 $ 185,540
William Elliott Sr Contr Admin/mec Coord $ 180,241 $ 4,396 $ 184,637
Frank Voyack Sr Legislative Rep $ 180,939 $ 3,392 $ 184,331
Jeffrey Macdonald Supv, Collective Bargain $ 165,443 $ 17,421 $ 182,864
Brendan Kenny Sr Legislative Rep $ 181,339 $ 1,425 $ 182,764
Art Luby Sr Contract Administrator $ 175,308 $ 5,955 $ 181,263
Dennis Dolan First Vice-president $ 0 $ 180,874 $ 180,874
Jane Schraft Sr Contract Administrator $ 177,005 $ 3,222 $ 180,227
Betty Ginsburg Senior Attorney $ 177,944 $ 2,106 $ 180,050
Victoria Fortuna Sr Benefits Attorney $ 176,673 $ 2,769 $ 179,442
Jim Medley Mgr, Systems Development $ 174,138 $ 188 $ 174,326
David Holtzman Sr Contract Administrator $ 165,286 $ 8,232 $ 173,518
Suzanne Kalfus Senior Attorney $ 168,913 $ 2,692 $ 171,605
Gary Dinunno Supv,airline Pilot Mag $ 170,308 $ 1,000 $ 171,308 <-------- This guy makes this much to put together the little magazine you get at home
Kevin Fitzpatrick Sr. Contract Admin. $ 170,423 $ 0 $ 170,423
Richard Harrell Manager, It-dev Sup $ 168,590 $ 1,432 $ 170,022
Jerry Wright Mgr, Security&human Perf $ 166,031 $ 2,763 $ 168,794
James Connolly Field Representative $ 160,354 $ 5,300 $ 165,654
Joan (jody) Bettenburg Sr Contract Admin $ 164,226 $ 1,230 $ 165,456
Darrell Green Sr Contract Administrator $ 159,038 $ 4,844 $ 163,882
Bill Edmunds Human Performance Spec $ 157,924 $ 5,051 $ 162,975
Paul Rice Vice President Admin $ 0 $ 162,735 $ 162,735
Bob Striegel Sr Staff Engineer $ 155,205 $ 5,990 $ 161,195
Don Mcclure Air Safety Coordinator $ 147,790 $ 13,346 $ 161,136
John Dean Contract Administrator $ 147,398 $ 12,676 $ 160,074
Bill Phaneuf Sr Staff Engineer $ 155,108 $ 3,746 $ 158,854
Richard Pavel Field Representative $ 150,947 $ 7,078 $ 158,025
Chris Baum Mgr, Accident Inv $ 154,712 $ 1,843 $ 156,555
Christopher Beebe Vice President Finance $ 0 $ 155,360 $ 155,360
Everett Barber Contract Administrator $ 147,946 $ 6,640 $ 154,586
Jim Lobsenz Senior Attorney $ 152,105 $ 2,146 $ 154,251
Margarita Lorenzetti Manager, Finance & Acct $ 151,842 $ 434 $ 152,276
John Wells Attorney $ 143,135 $ 6,504 $ 149,639
Sandra Pusey Supv, Product Support $ 149,518 $ 0 $ 149,518
David Krieger Lead Financial Analyst $ 138,125 $ 11,299 $ 149,424
Andrew Shostack Contract Administrator $ 143,133 $ 4,625 $ 147,758
Charlie Bergman Mgr, Air Safety & Ops $ 142,968 $ 4,282 $ 147,250
Kelly Collie Emp Dev & Comm Coord $ 143,850 $ 2,207 $ 146,057
Lee Veid Supervisor, Applications $ 145,607 $ 0 $ 145,607
Terry Saturday Sr Contr Administrator $ 137,865 $ 7,726 $ 145,591
Jack Parrack Enrolled Actuary $ 141,749 $ 3,146 $ 144,895
Ken Cooper Asst Dir Representation $ 131,651 $ 11,847 $ 143,498
Marie Schwartz Manager, Communications $ 137,492 $ 5,191 $ 142,683
Joan Gallahan Mgr, Memb & Council Srvs $ 142,236 $ 309 $ 142,545
Bill Despins Lead Economic Analyst $ 128,759 $ 13,619 $ 142,378
Percy Toop Contract Administrator $ 127,122 $ 13,873 $ 140,995
Jan Steenblik Technical Editor $ 136,676 $ 3,246 $ 139,922
David Hannah Contract Administrator $ 133,971 $ 4,641 $ 138,612
Peter Janhunen Manager, Communications $ 136,746 $ 1,485 $ 138,231
Linda Rafii Sr Benefits Specialist $ 132,763 $ 5,334 $ 138,097
Trai Nguyen Sr Network Integrator $ 135,624 $ 969 $ 136,593
Brent Milligan Enrolled Actuary $ 130,764 $ 5,517 $ 136,281
Kelly Hardy Sr Gov Affairs Spec $ 135,836 $ 0 $ 135,836
Mike Cranford Sr Systems Integrator $ 135,680 $ 0 $ 135,680
Helen Wong-scruggs Systems Analyst $ 135,544 $ 0 $ 135,544
John Mazor Sr. Communications Spec $ 135,236 $ 67 $ 135,303
Chris Mccarthy Manager, It Op&services $ 131,905 $ 300 $ 132,205
Joe Bracken Sr Staff Engineer $ 130,442 $ 1,588 $ 132,030
Rod Gardner Supv, Network Sys&ser $ 130,954 $ 660 $ 131,614
Amy Alperi Lead Economic Analyst $ 128,960 $ 1,994 $ 130,954
Marcia Eubanks Lead Economic Analyst $ 118,811 $ 11,873 $ 130,684
Michael Huhn Sr Accident Inv Spec $ 129,091 $ 1,335 $ 130,426
Wayne Klocke Contract Administrator $ 129,277 $ 1,098 $ 130,375
Daniel Froehlich Contract Administrator $ 123,751 $ 4,941 $ 128,692
James Andresakes Sr Security Specialist $ 126,867 $ 1,798 $ 128,665
John Gaiser Sr Benefits Specialist $ 126,412 $ 0 $ 126,412
Neal Davis Contract Administrator $ 121,703 $ 4,612 $ 126,315
Hong Lee Sr Data Admin Analyst $ 125,866 $ 0 $ 125,866
Cynthia Holloway Hr Administrator $ 125,843 $ 0 $ 125,843
Bert Leger Contract Administrator $ 108,952 $ 15,943 $ 124,895
Tom Kilpatrick Contract Administrator $ 119,483 $ 4,687 $ 124,170
Michael Welsh Contract Administrator $ 122,438 $ 1,620 $ 124,058
Bob Hall Staff Engineer $ 122,236 $ 1,681 $ 123,917
Richard Parker Analyst/programmer $ 123,814 $ 0 $ 123,814
Jan Briel Director, Human Resources $ 122,209 $ 904 $ 123,113 <-------- One of the highest paying HR jobs out there, for its size.
Elaine Grittner Sr Mec Benefits Spec $ 122,558 $ 382 $ 122,940
Janie Miller Systems Analyst $ 121,542 $ 224 $ 121,766
Steve Corrie Sr Staff Engineer $ 119,131 $ 2,102 $ 121,233
Paul Girdany Contract Administrator $ 117,047 $ 2,964 $ 120,011
Julie Glass Attorney $ 119,022 $ 766 $ 119,788
Andrea Griffith Supervisor, Accounting $ 119,411 $ 57 $ 119,468
Daniel Orfield Contract Administrator $ 116,354 $ 2,966 $ 119,320
Marta Wagner Attorney $ 118,616 $ 523 $ 119,139
Lisa Noyes Supervisor,pub Services $ 118,165 $ 130 $ 118,295
Lap Nguyen Systems Analyst $ 117,041 $ 0 $ 117,041
Mark Kovach Supv General Accounting $ 114,654 $ 0 $ 114,654
Christopher Brown Contract Administrator $ 111,306 $ 2,486 $ 113,792
Mike Carney Manager, Real Estate $ 112,568 $ 1,142 $ 113,710 <-------- ??
Tina Savopoulos Systems Analyst $ 113,287 $ 0 $ 113,287
William Dengler Sr Support Serv Analyst $ 113,000 $ 0 $ 113,000
Mark Angolia Comm Production Spec $ 99,747 $ 13,037 $ 112,784
Anthony Brown Systems Analyst $ 112,399 $ 0 $ 112,399
Rebecca Rong Analyst/programmer $ 111,961 $ 99 $ 112,060
Pam Quayle Supv, Meeting Planning $ 110,350 $ 785 $ 111,135 <-------- $111k for meeting planning!
Pierre Huggins Staff Engineer $ 109,390 $ 1,082 $ 110,472
Rick Kessel Staff Engineer $ 109,653 $ 644 $ 110,297
Sherry Taylor Benefits Specialist $ 106,174 $ 2,862 $ 109,036
Andrew Brenner Contract Administrator $ 105,017 $ 3,481 $ 108,498
Jan Redden Mgr, Gov Bodies Support $ 107,392 $ 127 $ 107,519
Tyler Home Supv Membership Services $ 106,865 $ 225 $ 107,090
Karen Browne-fleck Sr Benefits Specialist $ 92,338 $ 14,375 $ 106,713
Mark Cato Staff Engineer $ 101,968 $ 4,243 $ 106,211
Karen Madkour Travel Specialist $ 104,774 $ 1,203 $ 105,977 <-------- what the heck is a travel specialist, but sounds pretty good at $105k!
Jennifer Crichton Supervisor, Accounting $ 105,115 $ 0 $ 105,115
Eric Iverson Contract Administrator $ 101,111 $ 3,862 $ 104,973
Troy Englert Sr Economic Analyst $ 103,172 $ 1,637 $ 104,809
Melanie Howey Supervisor Mec/lec $ 101,426 $ 2,954 $ 104,380
Blair Donovan Operations Analyst $ 104,094 $ 224 $ 104,318


and the list goes on...

 

[Da Vinci]

Michael Fredericks Security Specialist $ 102,533 $ 1,664 $ 104,197
Bill Ford Design/production Editor $ 103,380 $ 679 $ 104,059
Corey Stephens Staff Engineer $ 101,265 $ 2,580 $ 103,845
James Moody Sr Communications Spec $ 103,777 $ 0 $ 103,777
Richard Bartsch Sys Integrator/analyst $ 98,975 $ 3,888 $ 102,863
Daniel Ryan Systems Integrator $ 101,563 $ 243 $ 101,806
Biscuit Gobezie Analyst/programmer $ 101,604 $ 0 $ 101,604
Kevin Comstock Staff Engineer $ 99,426 $ 1,927 $ 101,353
Clinton Burner Systems Integrator $ 100,448 $ 370 $ 100,818

 

[Tejas-Jet]

what alpa is doing is incredibly offensive considering our current situation. Their average salaries are more than the average salaries of the people they represent. It is incomprehensible.

Name Title Salary Benefits& Other TotalCompensation


Duane Woerth President $ 351,186 $ 136,744 $ 487,930

Wait...wait...wait...

I thought Duane was gone? Is he the one talking about "Taking it Back" all this time?

Is Duane also the guy that changed his mind on the Age 60 issue, therby giving the green light to Congressman Oberstar to go along with the Age 60 change?

Shouldn't the threatened recall be over by now? Is that how Prater got in?