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Um....Floats anyone??
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I could say the same to you about ALPA. How many lec/mec meetings have you shown up to to voice your concern??Juan_Tugo said:It's not about what they've done for me. My point is this: if you don't like the RJDC, take the energy you spend bashing them and use it to reform your union.
If the lawsuit didn't have merit the RJDC wouldn't be in a position to compel the production of the documents they're seeking. It does, they are, and ALPA's stonewalling speaks volumes about what those documents will reveal. Once you cut through all the specious rhetoric about Comair pilots wanting to move directly into the left seat of a widebody, all that's left is a simple DFR complaint that ALPA knows with absolute certainty that it has a tremendous amount of exposure to.
Juan: The lawsuit doesn not have merit! The rjdc's seeking of documents is their way of keeping this pathetic lawsuit alive! How many of the rjdc's complaints were thrown out of court. In all seriousness, I agree with their DFR complaint! That is the only thing they're holding on to, they're gasping for air at every corner!
That's where you're wrong...You DO have a dog in this fight. Especially if you contribute to Ford and company's pathetic fight. One thing you have to reaize about alpa, is that is an organization, not a union. Second, alpa is what you make of it. It is an organization of DIFFERENT mec's working in the interest of their OWN membership.. These different mec's are not working together, but rather work for different airlines who are in deep competition for each other and who's interest conflict with each other.I don't technically have a dog in this fight, but I contribute to the RJDC because I believe that an effective pilot union is critical to the future of our industry, and I believe that ALPA in its current iteration has clearly lost its way. I also believe that ALPA's internal mechanisms have been co-opted by narrow interests and have broken down to the point that an environment where meaningful reform can be generated from within simply does not nor cannot exist. There's an amply documented record of the RJDC's forbears' fruitless attempts to effect change within the constraints of ALPA's political process.
I can't argue with you there, you are right on! One thing is certain, pilots are their own worst enemy. IF NWA strikes tomorrow, their HQ will be lined with pilots lined up around the corner waiting to cross the picket line to fly a 744 for 1/8 pay!An issue like DW's compensation is just a red herring. What really matters is that once-upon-a-time, ALPA decided that a group of second-class citizens in its ranks subject to a virtual B-scale was an acceptable state of affairs. Management was on that one like a ravenous dog on a T-bone, and mainline pilots grateful to have "captured" 100 seat flying at $92/hr. (in 2005 dollars, no less) was an entirely predictable consequence.
In a sense, I am not disagreeing with you. I urge you to get involved with your union leadership. Its realy easy to bitch about it on an internet board, and in the cockpit while flying, but I can guarentee you that less than 1/10 of the pilots bitching about their working conditions have never even attended an lec/mec meeting or have even talked with their leadershipThe distinction between the haves and have-nots in our industry has always been an artificial one. In the end, we're all just pilots. We could have all been "haves," but thanks to ALPA's obsession with maintaining the illusion of mainline exclusivity, we're all on our way to being "have-nots."
take care:
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