AQ PILOT said:
On Dopps' side, I agree that there is a bit of stereotyping here. I don't want to go so far as to call is 'discrimination', but there is some sort of a stigma...hence the use of 'haole' all the time. I still don't fit in 100% of the time, but then again I never have anywhere ;-)
Why do you have to fit in? This is America, Jack. Stars and Stripes. The melting pot of the world. Shouldn't we preach tolerance and respect towards other cultures? Shouldn't we come to expect the same in return? Funny thing, one can be a great admirer of Hawaiian culture, but still not have to fit in - just show respect. The difference is that some people here are too ignorant to realize or accept the fact that this is America, not the Socialist Republic of Hawai'i.
I did hear an interesting rumor the other day from a couple of HAL guys. They said that our Union MEC had already been approached by the company for possibly opening a mainland base. How they knew, I have no idea, but that rumor does run around pretty heavily from time to time.....so, Dopps, you may be in luck!
HAL guys, huh? That's pretty funny.
jjp writes:
If you'd rather be based in OAK or PHX why on earth would you accept a job with Aloha?
The same reason you'd be applying to JetBlue, SWA and whoever else was hiring if Aloha dropped off the face of the planet. Please don't tell me you'd be a towel boy at Royal Hawaiian.
Last week I had a Captain who commuted in the same day, slept for two hours during the flight back to the mainland, and then bumped the speed up to a cost index of 500 on the flight back in hopes of making an earlier flight back to the mainland. We landed 1,600 pounds under projections. That's my 10%.
Did you speak up about it, or did you yes-sir him the whole way? If you spoke against it, outstanding! Or did you lack the cojones to speak up and now you talk about him behind his back? I am not condoning what the captain did. I am just questioning if you are one of those "not cause any waves to his face, i'll just stab him in the back" kind.
Last month I watched in disgust as a guy a class junior to me argued with an OAK gate agent about the fact that he was a commuter and shouldn't be bumped by someone junior to him even though the other person was on a vacation pass. He told the agent, "Well, you've just caused a flight to be cancelled this afternoon." I hope word got back to flight ops.
Was the jumpseat taken? Also, why do you hope the word got back to the flight ops? Are you a back-stabber? I hope you are not and I truly hope it didn't get to flight ops. On the other hand, I hope someone from our UNION pulled the idiot to the side and set him straight. Better yet, you were there. Why didn't you do it? Every pilot group has their share of idiots, including ours. It's up to us to keep each other straight, not run to flight ops.
I don't have anything against commuters, but I do have something against idiots.
If you really meant that, you wouldn't hope someone being an idiot got back to the flight ops. You'd hope that a fellow Aloha pilot would set him straight, or perhaps you, or does this fall in the category of one of those "not causing waves brah, just stab him in the back."
I don't know if you're one of them, but I can assure you that if you're being treated like a second class citizen, you probably bring it on yourself. And this is from someone who married a mainland haole girl.
I could care less about me. But when my kids come home crying because the 'local' kids at the waterpark were harrassing them "go back to the mainland, haole... this is my raft", I'd call that second-class citizen treatment. I just hope you and your kids when you have them don't have to experience that.
You and I both, buddy. Let's hope you don't have to make that choice.Sorry Dopps. I don't care if you have your mainland base as long as I can stay here and collect my retirement.
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