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Buddy of mine just called me and told me he was attending.

Good for y'all.

Show em!!!

He also told me the compnay wants the right to wet-lease, read: OUTSOURCE!

If this is true, you AQ guys are gonna' have no choice but to say enough is enough. Draw your line in the sand now (no pun intended)!
Hawaiian guys should show up and support your ALPA brothers at AQ as well.
 
Inform the public of what? That they like the rest of the private sector in the USA is or in the process of losing their pension. Wake up people, pension are a thing of the past. The only secured (and I lose the term losely) retirement is to have worked for the federal or state government.
 
about time said:
Inform the public of what? That they like the rest of the private sector in the USA is or in the process of losing their pension. Wake up people, pension are a thing of the past. The only secured (and I lose the term losely) retirement is to have worked for the federal or state government.

What are you, French? You're so defeatest in your statements. Sounding like you just want the industry to roll over on this one. "They cancelled my pension, well I guess I'll just accept it." What??? Are you kidding me??? Pensions are DEFERRED COMPENSATION. Now that managements are renigging, the labor movement will re-group and demand upfront payment. No more promises.

I don't think labor should just roll over and accept this. Our country was built on revolutions. Eventually labor will revolt and demand payment up front. Sure DAL / NWA / UAL are having their pensions attacked. But like 9/11 forced this country to reassess security. Pension terrorism will force labor to demand more payment up front. It may not happen over night. But it will happen. And it's about time AQ pilots stepped up to the plate and picketed.

We're all going to have to fight for our careers, work rules, and our benefits. It's not going to be easy but the battle certainly isn't over.

Wait till you see the blood bath about to occur at the Regionals. Read the latest Boyd report. I've been following him for over 7 years, he's been right just about every time. The Regional guys are going to have to fight for their existance as well. Nobody is immune!
 
about time said:
Inform the public of what? That they like the rest of the private sector in the USA is or in the process of losing their pension. Wake up people, pension are a thing of the past. The only secured (and I lose the term losely) retirement is to have worked for the federal or state government.

judging by this "informed" post.... a lot.





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whymeworry? said:
What are you, French? You're so defeatest in your statements. Sounding like you just want the industry to roll over on this one.

why,

he's not that sophisticated...the issue isnt very complicated for him.

he didnt get hired at AQ and he still hasnt gotten over it yet.
 
Once again Dash8, you have astounded me with your profound grasp and knowledge of labour unions. I know for a fact that you and your family never ever shop a Wally Mart, buy only American made products and cry when another American factory is shut down and jobs are shipped over seas.

Correct again DUhh8, I was not hired at Aloha, BECAUSE I have never put an apllication in with them. You should be on a speaking tour visting all the fine colleges of America, and enlighten Americans of the strive that todays pilots face.

While you are at the airport, pick up a copy of Time magazine and read about a 78 year old woman collecting cans to make ends meet and try to continue to feel sorry for yourself.
 
There are people who work full time at Wallmart making minimum wage. There are people who fly RJ's for next to nothing. So, should those who make decent livings not fight for what they've got? Should they just throw in the towel, and accept subpar wages because others already do? Who needs negotiations? Constant pay cuts for everybody!
about time said:
Once again Dash8, you have astounded me with your profound grasp and knowledge of labour unions. I know for a fact that you and your family never ever shop a Wally Mart, buy only American made products and cry when another American factory is shut down and jobs are shipped over seas.

Correct again DUhh8, I was not hired at Aloha, BECAUSE I have never put an apllication in with them. You should be on a speaking tour visting all the fine colleges of America, and enlighten Americans of the strive that todays pilots face.

While you are at the airport, pick up a copy of Time magazine and read about a 78 year old woman collecting cans to make ends meet and try to continue to feel sorry for yourself.

 
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about time said:
While you are at the airport, pick up a copy of Time magazine and read about a 78 year old woman collecting cans to make ends meet and try to continue to feel sorry for yourself.
So you are saying that we should all just roll with it, Mr. Lemming? You always just take your medicine without a fight, pu$$y-pants?
 
dash8driver said:
Aloha pilots will be doing informational picketing at restaurant row in front of corporate HQ. Picketing will be done from 10am-2pm HST.

Come one, come all!


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We had a solid 1/3rd of the group show up. Out of 300 pilots (many of whom were working today) we had about 100 walking. PHOTOS HERE
 
I guess you are right TRASH8, I am not a "real pilot", it does take great skill to fly inbetween island, shooting approaches down to 8 miles visibility. That 4R or 8L approach would make me shake in my shoes if I had to do it.

I think a REALITY check is in order on your part. You think your spending at Wal Mart and it's likes, always looking for the cheapest product not caring where the product is manufactured is not going to have an effect on anything is pure stupidity. If you are content to live in a service driven economy then you are almost there.

Hugh Jordan, how dare you use the picture of the Duke and act like you are the old truth sayer of knowledge. If you would like I would be more than happy to discuss this matter in person, that is if you can break yourself from tearing it up at Braber's Point. Stop acting like a mainland barney, I bet you try to speak pidgeon just to fit in. That is almost as bad as a Wigger.
 
Wow, I am so proud of all those that picketed. If I lived the life of leisure I would have been out there, picketing with them side by side.

The wake up call came and the heads are coming out of the sand. I'm almost sorry I gave up so quickly!
 
about time said:
I guess you are right

what a sorry little man. i can see now that your shortage of intellect is in part due to your low reading and comprehension level.

you really should seek help. holding hard feelings over not being hired for this long is sure to be unhealthy. i dont know why you're so upset. you should be happy you're not in such an undeserving job. you should be excited you're a real pilot, in the real world.

isnt it about time you give JO his foot massage?

fool.



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Hey, I heard about the "No Aloha, No Pilots" t-shirts.

Can I buy one?
 
English said:
Hey, I heard about the "No Aloha, No Pilots" t-shirts.

Can I buy one?

They are not for sale, but you can have one for free if you walk a few laps with us this weekend. We got a few boxes full of them in M/L/XL
 
Hey Trash8Driver, I will make sure I walk your resume in, DIRECTLTY to the trash can. Too bad it's not Mesa that I work for, now that would have been priceless. You will be singing a different tone when your wonderful 6 plane operation goes belly up. Please JO hire me pleaseeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!

You are a frinkin DULLARD!!!!!!
 
How do I post a picture on here? I got a good one of the NO PILOTS NO ALOHA Tees but I dont see any icon to click & upload... maybe i'll just change my avatar.
 
about time said:
Hey Trash8Driver, I will make sure I walk your resume in, DIRECTLTY to the trash can. Too bad it's not Mesa that I work for, now that would have been priceless. You will be singing a different tone when your wonderful 6 plane operation goes belly up. Please JO hire me pleaseeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!

You are a frinkin DULLARD!!!!!!

I was with Dash8driver today and he is no dullard. He is also the last person on Earth that will ever go blow JO for a job.
 
about time said:
Hey Trash8Driver, I will make sure I walk your resume in, DIRECTLTY to the trash can. Too bad it's not Mesa that I work for, now that would have been priceless. You will be singing a different tone when your wonderful 6 plane operation goes belly up. Please JO hire me pleaseeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!

You are a frinkin DULLARD!!!!!!

haha.. good one. i dont think mcdonalds takes resumes, so thank you anyway.

would you like me to call the whaaaaaaaaaaaaambulance for you?


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about time said:
Will see about that. Bills have to be paid!

I grew up on the street. I sure as hell aint afraid to go back to it. Its kind of a nice thought to go back to my roots. My bills are really the least of my concerns. They wont get paid anyway if AQ gets to outsource my flying or delete our work rules to 121 . Walk now or walk later, this way we walk with dignity. I refuse to go to work with a gun to my head. SHOOT ME NOW or put down the gun.

dash8 you look like a stud on the news!
 
Come on guys. If you had 9000 hours and were still flying an RJ, you'd be an asshole too.
 
Hugh Jorgan said:
9k hour ERJ driver telling us all how it is. :rolleyes:

And what's wrong with high-time RJ driver?

I spent 9 years at the "regionals' BY CHOICE. I made more money than my buddies who are Captains at ALOHA 7 of those 9 years. And I stayed because of the lifestyle I had... not for the money. I only chose to eventually move on because I expected that industrry to change, otherwise I would have been quite content "career-ing" it there.

Sure about time had it coming but if you guys are gonna' take pot-shots are RJ drivers I'm gonna take the same shots back at AQ interisland read: 737-200 steam guage) drivers that have never programmed "the box" before.

We're all pilots. Lets stick together and fight management/ bancruptcy attorneys/ new investors/ judges, etc..... not each other. If we stick together and support each other. The judges will fold. Nobody likes an angry mob. There is nothing in this world I am afraid of except an angry mob. If a judge shows up to court and is faced with pilots by the thousands that have drawn the line in the sand, he will be more apt to think twice about giving mgmt what they want. Right now, pilots are that "angry mob" and we've got to support each other and show a unified front. Regardless of the airline or equipment we fly.
 
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islandhopper.
I grew up on the street. I sure as hell aint afraid to go back to it. Its kind of a nice thought to go back to my roots. My bills are really the least of my concerns. They wont get paid anyway if AQ gets to outsource my flying or delete our work rules to 121 . Walk now or walk later, this way we walk with dignity. I refuse to go to work with a gun to my head. SHOOT ME NOW or put down the gun.

I don not think the streets of Beverly Hills or Kahala qualify as the "8 mile" image you are trying to convey. Not worried about bills, must be nice to have that welfare mentalaity and let the rest of his tax payers carry you in life. Sounds to me like you are a "dead beat" like HughJordan AKA BIG WIGGA.
 
whymeworry? said:
And what's wrong with high-time RJ driver?

I spent 9 years at the "regionals' BY CHOICE. I made more money than my buddies who are Captains at ALOHA 7 of those 9 years. And I stayed because of the lifestyle I had... not for the money. I only chose to eventually move on because I expected that industrry to change, otherwise I would have been quite content "career-ing" it there.

Sure about time had it coming but if you guys are gonna' take pot-shots are RJ drivers I'm gonna take the same shots back at AQ interisland read: 737-200 steam guage) drivers that have never programmed "the box" before.

We're all pilots. Lets stick together and fight management/ bancruptcy attorneys/ new investors/ judges, etc..... not each other. If we stick together and support each other. The judges will fold. Nobody likes an angry mob. There is nothing in this world I am afraid of except an angry mob. If a judge shows up to court and is faced with pilots by the thousands that have drawn the line in the sand, he will be more apt to think twice about giving mgmt what they want. Right now, pilots are that "angry mob" and we've got to support each other and show a unified front. Regardless of the airline or equipment we fly.

Solidarity and unity are the key. Guys like what's his name are what's wrong with this industry. Any time a pension is terminated, a pay scale is cut, or work rules are slashed, it should pi$$ us all off. There is nothing worse than a guy who is happy at another pilot's misfortune. I don't care if you fly RJ's, or the space shuttle, we are all in this together, and the sooner everyone realizes it, the better.

I truly wish all of the AQ guys the best of luck. Keep your heads up, and hopefully things will work out.
 
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about time said:
islandhopper.
I grew up on the street. I sure as hell aint afraid to go back to it. Its kind of a nice thought to go back to my roots. My bills are really the least of my concerns. They wont get paid anyway if AQ gets to outsource my flying or delete our work rules to 121 . Walk now or walk later, this way we walk with dignity. I refuse to go to work with a gun to my head. SHOOT ME NOW or put down the gun.

I don not think the streets of Beverly Hills or Kahala qualify as the "8 mile" image you are trying to convey. Not worried about bills, must be nice to have that welfare mentalaity and let the rest of his tax payers carry you in life. Sounds to me like you are a "dead beat" like HughJordan AKA BIG WIGGA.

i refer you to the link on the bottom of dash8's sig. I won't even bother to answer your post. Aloha!
 

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