ALOHA airlines

[go!ng for broke]

http://starbulletin.com/2008/03/22/news/story03.html

Heard lingle is very concerned about this and wants to help out but also wants to be fair to the other airlines. What does that mean?? Its the goverment that let GO! get away with murder (illegal pricing)

 

[Jim]

AlohaFlyer - you're idea is great unless you're the new hire at your former carrier who gets furloughed when you come back....

 

[fly4surf]

Lingle "concerned?"

Please.


She is part of the reason for this happening, I seem to remember she, and her "team," were quite fond of GO when they were getting approval to fly here.
Seemed like they were bending over backwards(ok, maybe forewards too?) to help them.
She and JO have any connections???

 

[Poahi]

Guys... ..national policy for when we have to change careers. We should have a furlough protection policy that allows us to return to our previous ALPA carrier at our previous seniority
..

It's an interesting idea. Kind of like gap insurance.

I'd support some kind of national seniority list with limitations though.The airlines would have to agree to it and I can guarantee you they would tell you to jump in the ocean if you proposed it as would the senior pilots at the 'good' airlines.

The pilots I know that left for AQ knew the risks and decided it was better than what they had.

Is it fair? No. I'm more concerned about the pilots that have retirement money at risk. They can't start that over. Anyone know if the retirement plans are safe? I believe they switched the new guys to a DC plan.

 

[Poahi]

Lingle "concerned?"
Please.

Hey, since Lingle wants to get in to the hotel business, why not have a state run airline? Look at how the State 'manages' the old Hemmeter building.

 

[AlohaFlyer]

I'd support some kind of national seniority list

I think its time to work on a national seniority list system... of course there would be limitations that make it fair... but we really need to look into this as a profession so that we can restore some level of protections from the deregulated mess of an industry that we all love to work for.

 

[dash8driver]

the only reason lingle and the rest of the politicians are "interested" is because its the way the political wind is blowing.... dont expect them to give more of a sh!t than for the easy political mileage. just like when go! was starting...

they are still just politicians... nothing more...

 

[Freight Dog]

the only reason lingle and the rest of the politicians are "interested" is because its the way the political wind is blowing.... dont expect them to give more of a sh!t than for the easy political mileage. just like when go! was starting...

they are still just politicians... nothing more...

How's the motherland?

 

[CommanderHoek]

Post under CH11

Guys and gals I put a post under the Aloha CH11 thread for you all.

 

[RJP]

I think its time to work on a national seniority list system...

Never gonna happen. If you think the Delta/NWA merger is a difficult sell to the respective pilot groups, just wait until you unveil a national seniority system. May as well just hope ALPA can get us a "Crew Pass" to get through TSA.

 

[skydivinguy]

You guys blaming Lingle for the demise of Aloha make me laugh! When is someone going to blame it on Bush/Cheney?

There is nothing "illegal" about Go! selling their $39 seats, sorry!

I feel for the employees of Aloha. They have no one to blame except their dumbazz management and the spike in fuel prices on them JT8D powered relics they fly..

Hawaiian isn't going TU's after their bankruptcy are they? How come? Maybe cause they did something different after they filed....

This could be a good thing for Hawaiian and Island Air as I don't think (and have heard from an employee friend of mine) that Go! is gone before the year is out.

Where was the weepingt and knashing of teeth when you guys drove Discover and Mahalo out of the market???

Can't have it both ways guys.

 

[HighSpeedClimb]

You guys blaming Lingle for the demise of Aloha make me laugh! When is someone going to blame it on Bush/Cheney?

There is nothing "illegal" about Go! selling their $39 seats, sorry!

I feel for the employees of Aloha. They have no one to blame except their dumbazz management and the spike in fuel prices on them JT8D powered relics they fly..

Hawaiian isn't going TU's after their bankruptcy are they? How come? Maybe cause they did something different after they filed....

This could be a good thing for Hawaiian and Island Air as I don't think (and have heard from an employee friend of mine) that Go! is gone before the year is out.

Where was the weepingt and knashing of teeth when you guys drove Discover and Mahalo out of the market???

Can't have it both ways guys.

Educate yourself idiot!

 

[dash8driver]

There is nothing "illegal" about Go! selling their $39 seats, sorry!

you either said this out of ignorance or you intentionally over simplified it in order to look right on a point in which you are so wrong.

I feel for the employees of Aloha. They have no one to blame except their dumbazz management and the spike in fuel prices on them JT8D powered relics they fly..

Hawaiian isn't going TU's after their bankruptcy are they? How come? Maybe cause they did something different after they filed....

This could be a good thing for Hawaiian and Island Air as I don't think (and have heard from an employee friend of mine) that Go! is gone before the year is out.

Where was the weepingt and knashing of teeth when you guys drove Discover and Mahalo out of the market???

Can't have it both ways guys.

as for the rest of the post, i dont have enough bandwidth to explain to you why your conclusions and comparisons are so off base.

my best advice to you is to do some homework, sorry.

 

[Pull & Rotate]

Skydivinguy,

Put a sock in it.

 

[Fubijaakr]

Put a sock in it.

As much as I hate to admit it, he has a point. The Dash-8, especially the Q400 is much better suited to interisland service than the 737-200.

In an era of $110 bbl oil, you ain't makin' money flying a JT-8D engine around.