Aloha Airlines to cease passenger operations March 31

[Two Feathers]

That's downright wrong!

Sorry to everyone at Aloha. Lots of good folks there.

 

[hockeypilot44]

So did I. This was my response:

Please stop e-mailing me. Mesa is a disgrace to my profession. I would rather shoot myself in the head than work as a Mesa captain yet alone first officer. I hope your company goes out of business for the sake of myself and my colleagues. Mesa will not be missed. Jonathon Ornstein should be in jail. I have no respect for anyone that would lower themselves to Mesa standards.

Sincerely,

XXXXX

 

[T-prop]

If only Aloha had enough time and money to take Mesa to court. It would be Mesa that would be shutting their doors.

I hope to see the day that Mesa burns.

 

[RJLooser]

mesa sucks

what he said.

 

[PlaneDrvr]

If only Aloha had enough time and money to take Mesa to court. It would be Mesa that would be shutting their doors.

I hope to see the day that Mesa burns.

The court case will most certainly go forward, unfortunately too late right now for Aloha. However, considering HAL got $80 million from JO (short for JackOff)/Mesa, for being damaged 'financially' with any hope, since Aloha was not only damaged financially, but 'forced out of business' hopefully the judgement will be BIG$$$$$. Maybe enough to finally force Mesa OUT OF BUSINESS, for good. Will be the Only thing good to come out of all of this. Again, Hopefully.

Best of Luck to all of the Aloha Pilots, a sad day for a real 'Class Act.'

Oh yeah, almost forgot to say, "F$%k mesa"

DA

 

[MJG]

If it helps, word on the street is that Mesa only has anywhere from 4 days to 30 days operating cash on hand themselves.

They had over 50% pilot attrition last year, 53% of that number were Captains.

I don't think they're going to last much longer themselves which is why this is such a shame for AQ.

In 2005 while vacationing on Maui, my wife and I were in this little general store in Hana and I saw a newspaper headline the stopped me in my tracks. The headline that day was "Mesa to bring jobs to Hawaii with new airline".

Ironicly that article was very positive that this would be a good thing for Hawaii. Wonder what the headline from that same paper is today?

 

[buckeyes95]

I used to think that Mesa was such a sh*t bag carrier because the pilots kept moving on to better jobs. I don't think that anymore. There is no where to go. They are stuck where they are at. They have no reason to continue to set the bar lower and lower and continue to put fellow pilots out of work. Mesa pilots, its time for you to stand up for yourself. You are not helping yourself by putting other carriers out of business. Maybe other carriers pilots need to start denying these clowns the jump seat as an incentive. Right now, Mesa pilots are scabs in my book.

 

[CaptSeth]

Mesa is on the endangered species list right now, they are too heavily weighted with 50 seat RJ's. I predict Chapter 11 by December.

 

[Mookie]

After aloha wins their settlement, take $1 million of the settlement, and throw the biggest f'n party right in front of Mesa HQ. and at the end of the night...get everyone together and do a "full moon", take a pic, frame it, have everyone sign it, and send it to JO with the header "JO...u can kiss our asses..."

really sux for you guys. our etops guy is former aloha and is a cool guy. i'm sure he's indicative of the pilot group. hopefully you guys will fall on your feet.

Mookie

 

[whymeworry?]

The way Hawaii works, I would imagine J.O. nor ny of his family will ever be safe there. In fact, I surmise he will need full-time security detail forhis entire family even in California for many years to come. Hawaiians don't take this kind of stuff too lightly. Actually, they don't take much too lightly.

 

[Paul R. Smith]

I am so sorry to hear that.

My prayers and thoughts go out to you.

 

[labbats]

It's sad when any carrier closes its doors. When it's from circumstances like these it's doubly sad.

Best of luck to all involved.

 

[G100driver]

What about night freight? It seems the islands could not survive without this service.

 

[FFFO]

What about night freight? It seems the islands could not survive without this service.

it seems the cargo ops will continue as they have an investor...

i am sick to my stomach for all of us...

lets remember to take care of each other...

and F### MESA!

 

[AC560]

Hawaiians don't take this kind of stuff too lightly. Actually, they don't take much too lightly.

Though Hawaiian's are the predominant reason why Aloha is going under not Mesa. As much as one can blame Mesa in the end it is the people buying the tickets who did the damage.

 

[Quack]

Though Hawaiian's are the predominant reason why Aloha is going under not Mesa. As much as one can blame Mesa in the end it is the people buying the tickets who did the damage.

Huh? Did you just crawl out from under the rock? JO and his business should all go back to their homes on WHORE ISLAND! F%^%ing Mesa

 

[PA44Jockey]

Just waiting for the Sara Silverman version of "I'm F*&$#ng Matt Damon" to be replaced and redone by JO. "We're f(*$&$#5& this industry."

Just curious, where was ALPA during all of this? Lou Dobbs said the other night that our industry is starting to look like a third world country. He might just be right.

 

[crj410]

ALPA is the very same entity to sign off on the MESA contract. This is not a union it's a country club for the top 10%. Never planning how an industry can change based upon their decisions.

I sure hope ALPA can help out our fellow pilots no that the ball is dropped.

 

[Fly-n-hi]

Sorry guys.

 

[AC560]

Huh? Did you just crawl out from under the rock? JO and his business should all go back to their homes on WHORE ISLAND! F%^%ing Mesa

No but you are apparently are living on the ISLAND OF DENIAL. Mesa didn't put Aloha out of business the people who bought tickets from Mesa put Aloha out of business (see Wal Mart vs. small town store).

If the Hawaiian's want to get pissed at somebody for driving Aloha out of business they should look in the mirror.

 

[COpilot]

Very sad indeed.

Still trying to understand what happins to Island Air?

 

[dooork]

No but you are apparently are living on the ISLAND OF DENIAL. Mesa didn't put Aloha out of business the people who bought tickets from Mesa put Aloha out of business (see Wal Mart vs. small town store).

If the Hawaiian's want to get pissed at somebody for driving Aloha out of business they should look in the mirror.

BINGO! we have a winner, also let examine every other airline that has operated at less than break even so that they could get rid of the competition.

 

[Green Banana]

Gavarnie Holding, LLC purchased Aloha Island Air from Aloha Air Group on may 11, 2004 and re named it Island Air. They are independent of ALOHA now.

 

[Going2Baja]

Sorry to hear this.....Good luck guys/gals!!

Baja
AIA 1990-1994 DHC-6

 

[vtwo]

No but you are apparently are living on the ISLAND OF DENIAL. Mesa didn't put Aloha out of business the people who bought tickets from Mesa put Aloha out of business (see Wal Mart vs. small town store).

If the Hawaiian's want to get pissed at somebody for driving Aloha out of business they should look in the mirror.

Yea just Like it's not the crack dealer's fault your kids are hooked and selling them self for sex.

 

[Erndogg]

As an employee of Hawaiian Airlines, my heart goes out to all of my family, friends and flying partners across the ramp at Aloha.

Throughout the years we have had a "love-hate relationship" with them, but in it we supported each other.

I still can not fathom ALOHA closing. It's like an end of an era.

Erndogg
Aloha Island Air Allum 1997-1999

 

[john cocktosen]

Very sad indeed.

Still trying to understand what happins to Island Air?

GO Express????

GO Shuttle???

 

[tired_pilot]

good luck

God Bless everyone, my prayers are with you.

Lets all get out and vote, be proactive, and try to prevent the corporate greed and lack of regulation that fostered this sad situation. I for one am writing the CEO of every major that codeshares with YV and demanding they drop YV services, my senators asking for oversight after that. get the word out with your friends not to support these type of operators. Its not much but its a start.

 

[Dick Cabeza]

Best of luck to all at Aloha.

That being said... Screw GO! and by the way Johnny O.... Bite Me!

 

[Amish RakeFight]

No but you are apparently are living on the ISLAND OF DENIAL. Mesa didn't put Aloha out of business the people who bought tickets from Mesa put Aloha out of business (see Wal Mart vs. small town store).

If the Hawaiian's want to get pissed at somebody for driving Aloha out of business they should look in the mirror.

If you want to be technical about it, yes - the passengers chose GO! over AQ and that led to a decrease in ticket sales. Unfortunately, they too are considered a pawn in J.O's game. What Go! engaged in was probably considered a predatory pricing tactic to drive out competition while breaking even or taking a loss until you've driven out the competition. It preys on the traveling public who naturally want low fares over any alligency to an airline.

It's the Go! airlines business model which led to Aloha's demise. Not the passengers choice of airline.