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islandhopper

islandhopper

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One local TV station is reporting that this is the big rumor around Honolulu today.

No other information...

The pilots MEC meeting last night was just as informative.

"Something big going down"... time frame 2 to 3 weeks.

Yucaipa said to tell our SEC/TRES "trust us"
 
It seems as if every airline has some "big news" that is right around the corner. About a month ago, there was a rumor started here at Alaska, that a big announcement would be made in January that "would change everyone's career". Great... that narrows it down to either a pink slip or keys to the CEO's office...
So last week, the big news at Alaska broke! New non-stop service from PDX to the east coast. Wow! My life has forever been changed! I was so impressed, I can't even remember the new city pairs.

So for my friends at Aloha, I hope your "big news" is as life changing as our's at Alaska was. I hope you guys enjoy the 200's we are sending your way soon. 730AS and 742AS were the best we had. 741AS was originally built for FedEx and is a bit unusual. 746AS and 747AS were sister ships originally from Wein, good machines. 745AS, the African Queen, aka "Franken Jet" - the worst B737 in the world that unfortunately still flys. 95,000 ZFW, oddball interior and cargo door. The thing is a mix of parts from two wrecks, one in Africa and one in England. Take good care of them!
AK737FO
 
Buying Airtran or Aloha for "the life changing event". I wouldnt be suprised if they bought Aloha to get the ETOPS certificate and ETOPS 737-700.
 
supposedly the guy in charge of our etops (which is shelved for a while) is from aloha. hmmmmmm....

PDX-BOS and MCO...not very life changing.

Mookie
 
Could be SWA. Why the hell not? Stranger things have happened, and with what's been going on lately......?
 
Mookie said:
PDX-BOS and MCO...not very life changing.
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UNLESS you happen to be a huge fan of the TRAILBLAZERS, CELTICS and MAGIC and you want to be able to go see them play without making a connection... ;)
 
Southwest buys Aloha for some cash but mostly stock. Announced next week the day before the 4 qtr results or the day of the results.
 
Could be a good fit with the -700's. Although they are staffed at 165 employees/jet!!


Aloha Airlines (formerly Trans-Pacific Airlines 1946-1958)
Total Employees:
3,482 as of May 31, 2006​

Operating Data:
4.1 million revenue passengers enplaned in 2005
Operating Fleet:
8 Boeing 737-700 / 12 first class; 112 coach
10 Boeing 737-200/ 127 coach
3 Boeing 737-200/ cargo configuration​

Destinations Served: Hawaii Hilo, Hawaii Honolulu, Oahu Kahului, Maui Kona, Hawaii Lihue, Kauai

U.S Mainland Las Vegas, Nevada Oakland, California Orange County, California Reno, Nevada Sacramento, California San Diego, California
 
SWA Will buy

In the training center this week and Kelly said they are working several large things. We need the 700's and will continue to run Aloha like they did ATA after fixing some problems. Ties in with ATA and easy buy.
 
I hope all works out for our friends over at Aloha, no matter what happens to you. I wonder if all this may be the reason our (Hawaiian) stock has been skyrocketing this week. It's up over 20% and had several times the normal trading volume. Is there another merger in the works here too? Who knows, but it's gonna be an interesting year.

HAL
 
swa737-700 said:
Although they are staffed at 165 employees/jet!!
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That happens to all smaller airlines. You have to have a certain number of people to make an airline work, no matter how many planes you have. Even a single plane is required (by pt. 121) to have a slew of management personnel, training department, ground crew, res. agents, etc. The bigger the airline, the more efficient the overall staffing works - hence the reason all the airlines are on the merger kick this year.

HAL
 
HAL said:
That happens to all smaller airlines. You have to have a certain number of people to make an airline work, no matter how many planes you have. Even a single plane is required (by pt. 121) to have a slew of management personnel, training department, ground crew, res. agents, etc. The bigger the airline, the more efficient the overall staffing works - hence the reason all the airlines are on the merger kick this year.

HAL
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Thanks Hal,
That makes sense to me.
 
AK737FO said:
It seems as if every airline has some "big news" that is right around the corner. About a month ago, there was a rumor started here at Alaska, that a big announcement would be made in January that "would change everyone's career". Great... that narrows it down to either a pink slip or keys to the CEO's office...
So last week, the big news at Alaska broke! New non-stop service from PDX to the east coast. Wow! My life has forever been changed! I was so impressed, I can't even remember the new city pairs.

So for my friends at Aloha, I hope your "big news" is as life changing as our's at Alaska was. I hope you guys enjoy the 200's we are sending your way soon. 730AS and 742AS were the best we had. 741AS was originally built for FedEx and is a bit unusual. 746AS and 747AS were sister ships originally from Wein, good machines. 745AS, the African Queen, aka "Franken Jet" - the worst B737 in the world that unfortunately still flys. 95,000 ZFW, oddball interior and cargo door. The thing is a mix of parts from two wrecks, one in Africa and one in England. Take good care of them!
AK737FO
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I have a bad feeling that the pdx service is not the news we are expecting. If Aloha has indeed been sold, I think the buyers are right under our collective noses.
 
Ok...I'll buy dinner for all the Southwest guys who posted if we actually get merged in to your seniority list. Same goes for the Alaska guys. Remember, we are only 300 pilots, so no need for a staple job ;0) I'm still all for a merger with HAL too, but I'll only buy you posters a lunch (kidding!)...

As for anyone else, just don't take any more money away and be kind on the work rule adjustments...I think I flew about 380 hours last year as a bid pilot and got paid for 960. Can't figure out why we aren't making money! That is an efficient bid at AQ....
 
Wait a second, hang on there, don't put your stapler away...if that's all we can get at Alaska, I'll gladly take it, but a nice 2 for 1 merge would be that much more appreciated ;0)
 
Just enjoy the ride my brother...

Here is what you and I can do as a couple of line pukes:

1) If we're sold to a good entity/airline - drink some beers and celebrate.

2) If we're sold to a sh*tbag or liquidate - drink some beers and drown in our sorrows.

3) If we maintain status quo - drink some beers and solve all the world's problems.


:beer:
 
AK737FO said:
So for my friends at Aloha, I hope your "big news" is as life changing as our's at Alaska was. I hope you guys enjoy the 200's we are sending your way soon. 730AS and 742AS were the best we had. 741AS was originally built for FedEx and is a bit unusual. 746AS and 747AS were sister ships originally from Wein, good machines. 745AS, the African Queen, aka "Franken Jet" - the worst B737 in the world that unfortunately still flys. 95,000 ZFW, oddball interior and cargo door. The thing is a mix of parts from two wrecks, one in Africa and one in England. Take good care of them!
AK737FO
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743 and 744 were from Wien 746 and 747 were from MarkAir.......
 
Mookie said:
supposedly the guy in charge of our etops (which is shelved for a while) is from aloha. hmmmmmm....

PDX-BOS and MCO...not very life changing.

Mookie
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That guy from AQ who runs your ETOPs department was one of our -700 pilots, junior to boot. If his initials are RP then he left us thinking we were going out of business a year ago. Pretty much all of us thought that, he just did something about it, no connection to a buy. He has a wealth of information about the -700 and the ETOPs environment.
 
As long as the potential buyer isn't JO aka Mesa!!!!

I still think it could be Virgin America for the certificate. What a way to get a back door entry.. Bastards!
 
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swa737-700 said:
Could be a good fit with the -700's. Although they are staffed at 165 employees/jet!!




Aloha Airlines (formerly Trans-Pacific Airlines 1946-1958)
Total Employees:​


3,482 as of May 31, 2006​
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My understanding is that over half of the employees of Aloha are "contract services" that provide support in the Hawaiian Islands for those other airlines that don't have their own agents, ground support or mx.
 
Getter said:
My understanding is that over half of the employees of Aloha are "contract services" that provide support in the Hawaiian Islands for those other airlines that don't have their own agents, ground support or mx.
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Contract Services is about 1000 employees
 

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