Allegiant Striking?

[redflyer65]

Heard a rumor of a walk out. Any truth to that? Also heard the company has taken benefits away as they see fit..

 

[niners]

Heard a rumor of a walk out. Any truth to that? Also heard the company has taken benefits away as they see fit..

This is very true. It's effective at midnight tonight.

 

[fly4surf]

Heard a rumor of a walk out. Any truth to that? Also heard the company has taken benefits away as they see fit..

The company always did that, but now with a union on board it is a little more difficult to change for the worse at their will!

Best of luck to the pilots! You deserve better!
Long overdue!

 

[Flash]

Hopefully get 100% participation like Spirit did

 

[PCL_128]

Judge issued an injunction. Sorry, but you can't strike without the NMB saying so.

 

[redflyer65]

Even though the judge stepped in, the schedule is going to be horrible. I can't imagine the write ups on a 30 year old MD-80 in the morning. Going to be very interesting.

Good luck guys.

 

[Ameriagle]

Judge issued an injunction. Sorry, but you can't strike without the NMB saying so.

Yes you can. RLA allows for a strike to restore status quo without NMB approval. Judge found company in violation on multiple counts. Today's injunction was issued without a hearing. It will be heard by Judge Gordon, he who issued the original judgement in favor of Teamsters, on April 10. No reason to believe he will not uphold his original ruling.

 

[PCL_128]

Yes you can. RLA allows for a strike to restore status quo without NMB approval.

No, it doesn't. Stop listening to your IBT leadership and actually read the Act.

Judge found company in violation on multiple counts. Today's injunction was issued without a hearing. It will be heard by Judge Gordon, he who issued the original judgement in favor of Teamsters, on April 10. No reason to believe he will not uphold his original ruling.

The judgment that he issued was ordering the company to restore the status quo. He never issued any order allowing you to strike. That was some nonsense that the IBT dreamed up on their own. If the company violates the judge's order to restore the status quo, then it's up to the judge to determine the remedy, which will probably be finding them in contempt and fining them. He isn't going to let you strike.

 

[Ameriagle]

No, it doesn't. Stop listening to your IBT leadership and actually read the Act.



The judgment that he issued was ordering the company to restore the status quo. He never issued any order allowing you to strike. That was some nonsense that the IBT dreamed up on their own. If the company violates the judge's order to restore the status quo, then it's up to the judge to determine the remedy, which will probably be finding them in contempt and fining them. He isn't going to let you strike.

See "United Industrial Workers of Seafarers vs. Board of Trustees." Fifth Circuit found in favor of the union's right to self help under the RLA prior to exhaustion of all remedies. Something about the carrier itself not being compliant with the Act, blah blah, Status Quo, blah blah. Read it if you want or don't, however such an action is, in fact, supported by case law.

 

[PCL_128]

I've read it, and for many reasons it is not applicable. You're being lead by a bunch of knuckle-dragging morons at the IBT, and they're screwing you over. Because of them, you've infuriated the NMB, and now your chance of getting a real release anytime in the foreseeable future is nil. I wish you guys the best, but this is not the way to go about this.

 

[Ameriagle]

I'm not arguing whether the strategy is sound, we will find out soon enough. I'm simply refuting the accuracy of your original statement. "United Industrial Workers of Seafarers vs. Board of Trustees" is in fact a case in which a lawful strike was conducted without NMB approval to restore Status Quo. Whether YOU think it is applicable is immaterial.

 

[regionaltard]

Nice to see that the 80 for 80 days are over, but the Trucksters haven't proven themselves to be the sharpest knives in the drawer. Good luck though.

 

[johnsonrod]

Allegiant's management is greedy and clueless. Pilots can make a lot more money elsewhere. With the majors hiring, I would be surprised if Allegiant can find enough pilots to fill classes given its reputation. At one point Allegiant had a decent reputation as a good place to work but that has changed substantially.

Good luck to all pilots involved!

 

[Vegaspilot99]

Last word I've heard is they had trouble filling the last two classes. The word is out and it's only going to grow.

 

[SpauldingSmails]

Hope it all works out for you guys.

 

[Pan1900]

Latest news 1 hr ago. We were legal to strike. A NMB spokesperson misspoke to WSJ. Stay tuned??

 

[reepicheep]

No, Allegiant Teamsters is still bound by the TRO the NMB has nothing to do with that.....they were merely saying their spokesperson who said we couldn't strike was misquoted. The NMB doesn't get inolved 'till they decide on the release from negotiations proffer.

 

[brokedash]

According to APC forums, G4 has no trouble attracting the interest of regional guys, who even after being told both sides of the story say, "It's got to be better than were I'm at," and who still believe the myth G4 pilots are home every night. I don't know if this is translating into full classes or not, but there diffently pilots inquiring about the place.