av8instyle
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- Jan 8, 2002
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Folks,
Before you vote for this realize that the temporary money fix may be the final salvo at securing your right seat for a LOOONG time.
Points to ponder:
1-VSA and 85 hr lines are lower right now due to no contract and furloughs. You think the fence sitters will keep this position when the ink is on the paper? I'd agrue no way in he!!
2- Reserves are over 5% above the contract required 10% staffing due to insecurity in the schedule. Do you think we'll need these extra reserves when the senior dudes start doing bullet #1?
3- Remember how Prater cornholed us with age 65? Well, what would you do if you were 60 and the new contract said you could freeze your retirement at 100% right now and collect an extra 13.5% into your 401k until 65? I'd have a hard time leaving that. This TA plus the stock market crash will assure everyone over 60 that's able to get a medical will stay till 65. Additionally...if you are 61 your raise will be 11%, 1.5%, 1.5%, 1.8%, retire. If you are an FO after 1.8 you will see ZERO, ZERO, still an FO, still an FO....etc, etc..
4- Using myself as an example, before the reductions started I was 120 numbers from the left seat. I am now about 300 from junior captain. When we start our normal retirement cycle again we will be losing an average of 50/year. So doing the math that is about 4-5 years until the retirements start again and about 6 years of retirements till I get a seat. That's about 10 more years...I've been here 8 already. For those that will argue growth...there are exactly the same # of pilots here now as there were when I was hired...and there were none on furlough.
To sum it up...if you vote yes you will effectively assure several more years of FO pay. Age 60+ers have incentive to stay, dudes will pluss up their lines, VSAers will have a field day with minute one at 150%, and the company will have a stable schedule with no need to staff greater than 10% reserves.
If you are a decent line holding captain it would be tough not to vote for it. If you are anyone else you need to take a hard look at what this temporary pay fix will do to your CAREER.
My opinion only: we'd be much better off career wise to roll the dice at being parked for a year than we would being parked in the right seat for an extra half decade.
I'm voting right now. Guess what it will be.
Before you vote for this realize that the temporary money fix may be the final salvo at securing your right seat for a LOOONG time.
Points to ponder:
1-VSA and 85 hr lines are lower right now due to no contract and furloughs. You think the fence sitters will keep this position when the ink is on the paper? I'd agrue no way in he!!
2- Reserves are over 5% above the contract required 10% staffing due to insecurity in the schedule. Do you think we'll need these extra reserves when the senior dudes start doing bullet #1?
3- Remember how Prater cornholed us with age 65? Well, what would you do if you were 60 and the new contract said you could freeze your retirement at 100% right now and collect an extra 13.5% into your 401k until 65? I'd have a hard time leaving that. This TA plus the stock market crash will assure everyone over 60 that's able to get a medical will stay till 65. Additionally...if you are 61 your raise will be 11%, 1.5%, 1.5%, 1.8%, retire. If you are an FO after 1.8 you will see ZERO, ZERO, still an FO, still an FO....etc, etc..
4- Using myself as an example, before the reductions started I was 120 numbers from the left seat. I am now about 300 from junior captain. When we start our normal retirement cycle again we will be losing an average of 50/year. So doing the math that is about 4-5 years until the retirements start again and about 6 years of retirements till I get a seat. That's about 10 more years...I've been here 8 already. For those that will argue growth...there are exactly the same # of pilots here now as there were when I was hired...and there were none on furlough.
To sum it up...if you vote yes you will effectively assure several more years of FO pay. Age 60+ers have incentive to stay, dudes will pluss up their lines, VSAers will have a field day with minute one at 150%, and the company will have a stable schedule with no need to staff greater than 10% reserves.
If you are a decent line holding captain it would be tough not to vote for it. If you are anyone else you need to take a hard look at what this temporary pay fix will do to your CAREER.
My opinion only: we'd be much better off career wise to roll the dice at being parked for a year than we would being parked in the right seat for an extra half decade.
I'm voting right now. Guess what it will be.