Alaska Airlines Furloughs

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Just wondering what other pilots takes are on the upcoming furlough/downgrades. Does anyone think they will really go through with it or just using it to try to bust the union?
 

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Just wondering what other pilots takes are on the upcoming furlough/downgrades. Does anyone think they will really go through with it or just using it to try to bust the union?
I think they are going to go through with it. I don't know how well the summer is going to work out for them though. I don't think guys are going to be out that long though. This contract is worth $90 million a year to them so I think they are willing to spend/lose a few million to get their way.
 

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I think they are going to go through with it. I don't know how well the summer is going to work out for them though. I don't think guys are going to be out that long though. This contract is worth $90 million a year to them so I think they are willing to spend/lose a few million to get their way.

Agreed. The NMB basically gave management until about May to get a descent proposal or we will be released. Expect the threat of CHAOS and an agreement at 11:59:59 before released. One of our Captains has started a donation plan that has pilots donate to take care of the 32 out now and any upcoming furloughs. This is a great sign of unity and hopefully it sends a message to management.

I just flew with two guys getting downgraded and both were optimistic it will be short lived. If you're out of the previous seat less than a year it is only a 2 hour sim and a line flight. Not much expense to the company to get guys retrained and up to speed. But I've learned not to use common sense or any type of sane logic when analyzing the decisions these people make. As far as I'm concerned they are all baked over at the lake.
 

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Is it true the pilots are only getting a little over a $100 a week on unemployment.
 

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I did read on the ALPA board where guys were having trouble in WA state. I don't know the amount but I do know some were getting denied completely. I think they got it worked out.
 

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ALPA just gave Alaska 5 million from the contingency fund...I'd say both sides are taking a strike seriously.
 

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ALPA just gave Alaska 5 million from the contingency fund...I'd say both sides are taking a strike seriously.
That's just Act III, Scene 5.

Somewhere along negotiations, a Strike Preparedness Committee is formed by every airline MEC, and when the MEC feels they have close to 100% they'll take a strike vote.

There's too many KoolAide Kids at Alaska right now, so no strike vote. I think the Union will have to say that we'll only do CHAOS before we'll get anything close to 100% on a strike vote.
 

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Is it true the pilots are only getting a little over a $100 a week on unemployment.
That's true. $123 a week to be exact. Its due to the way Alaska reports wages to the state. Since pilots only work a maximum of 85 hours a month (and not 40 hours a week) we are not considered "full time" employees.
 

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That's true. $123 a week to be exact. Its due to the way Alaska reports wages to the state. Since pilots only work a maximum of 85 hours a month (and not 40 hours a week) we are not considered "full time" employees.
What are people doing to get around this if anything?
 

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One of the furloughees I know got his resolved and is getting about $440 a week.
 

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Just wondering what other pilots takes are on the upcoming furlough/downgrades. Does anyone think they will really go through with it or just using it to try to bust the union?
I think they'll go through with it. I just got scheduled for my arctic SLF. Oh boy!!!!
 

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I think they'll go through with it. I just got scheduled for my arctic SLF. Oh boy!!!!
Ah, you'll soon see the true meaning of "pink it up."

Do you know what the FO did to resolve the unemployment issue in re pay?
 

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Nice to see we made $$$ last year!
Could they share with us a bit????
 

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Nice to see we made $$$ last year!
Could they share with us a bit????
We made money? Well, I think Bill deserves a bonus. Heck, he can take my pay in a few more weeks.
 

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We made money? Well, I think Bill deserves a bonus. Heck, he can take my pay in a few more weeks.
Taking your pay would amount to an insultingly paltry bonus for Bill and the MBA club -- not that that would stop them.
 

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Just wondering what other pilots takes are on the upcoming furlough/downgrades. Does anyone think they will really go through with it or just using it to try to bust the union?
Bill would appreciate it if nobody calls in sick today. I know we've already furloughed and have plans to furlough more, but we just don't have anyone to cover your trip today.

Don't worry about tomorrow. We have a few reserves available and nobody calls in sick on Super Bowl Sunday.
 

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Here's my gut feeling:

Bill will bow out quietly and go to his power co. as CEO, Tildon will complete contract and be made a hero while expanding by 5 a/c, all pilots will remain on furlough as an announcement is made by DAL that they are "in talks to merge."

Hope I'm wrong, but the writing is on the wall.

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Here's my gut feeling:

Bill will bow out quietly and go to his power co. as CEO, Tildon will complete contract and be made a hero while expanding by 5 a/c, all pilots will remain on furlough as an announcement is made by DAL that they are "in talks to merge."

Hope I'm wrong, but the writing is on the wall.

Baja.
I hope you are wrong too, but I can see that happening.

Wish me luck.

I would hope our brothers and sisters at NWA\Delta will take care of us furloughees.

ZP
 

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I'm hoping a Bunny will leave me festively colored eggs, and that a Man in a red suit comes down my chimney and leaves presents under a dead tree adorned with shiny objects and lights...all for the promise of a glass of milk and some cookies.

I also hope that Jenna Jameson and twelve tiny Rain-Bitches will show up at my door tonight and show me the Ass-Fantasmic.

Hey, it could happen....

YKMKR
 
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