Alaska Air Group $262.6 million profitin 2010

[CesnaCaptn]

They will be acquiring 26 A/C over the next four years, while retiring 8 400's. Net gain of 18 including previously announced orders.

I feel like I'm beating a dead horse, but I don't want to get excited if that 18 number is wrong. I've read that statement a few times on here, but I haven't been able to find a press release containing that info. Is it contained in an 8k or something?

 

[Baze]

CC,

Go to alaskasworld.com and read all the stuff that has been posted on there this morning. That's where the 26 deliveries and 8 retirements is coming from. Also, looks like our projected fleet count will have us at 129 airplanes by December 31, 2013. All of this is subject to change of course.

 

[CesnaCaptn]

CC,

Go to alaskasworld.com and read all the stuff that has been posted on there this morning. That's where the 26 deliveries and 8 retirements is coming from. Also, looks like our projected fleet count will have us at 129 airplanes by December 31, 2013. All of this is subject to change of course.

Thanks Baze. It helps if I read every word on the Alaskasworld report. I just skimmed it a few times. I see it now.

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

Is it still 9 pilots/plane or have they tightened that up?

 

[CesnaCaptn]

Is it still 9 pilots/plane or have they tightened that up?

On the bid effective 4/1/11 we had 1443 pilots on the seniority list and 1277 on base position lists. Based on the the base position list number we're running just under 12 pilots per plane and we're short right.

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

On the bid effective 4/1/11 we had 1443 pilots on the seniority list and 1277 on base position lists. Based on the the base position list number we're running just under 12 pilots per plane and we're short right.

We can't be short. Otherwise they wouldn't have furloughed. Duh!

16 planes X 12 pilots/plane = 192 pilots

192 pilots - 44(?) furloughees = 148 newhires + attrition



Are the Muckity Mucks trying to work out a training LOA?

 

[SRMairlines]

26 orders (15 New) - 42 options (options are delivery positions - before announcement we had 38 options)

read the 8Ks

 

[mach none]

Scope

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

Scope? Pffft. A nice EMB-195 flown by Alaska Air Express would be a much more profitable.

 

[Snapshot]

Sorry to hear that, guys.

SCOPE! SCOPE! SCOPE!

Without it nothing else matters!

Why does it suddenly smell like camel in this tent?

"No big deal, it's only five horizon planes they are paying someone else (NON UNION, no less) to fly!!!!" They didn't even try to make it look better by making them find their own planes. They are GIVING THEM HORIZON PLANES TO FLY!!!!!
Every single person who justifies this will also tell you how illegals jumping the border and sending jobs to India are so horrible, just are just too stupid to grasp that it's the same thing.

Next move: "We need to allocate our valuable resources elsewhere, so we're going to pull mainline planes out of Spokane (or Sacramento, or wherever)"...Alaska Express can do it cheaper.
What's that? Skywest or Mesa or whomever put in an order for emb 195's? That could save a lot of money.
400's get retired and not replaced.......
Ask every single pilot who has ever given up scope how it worked out for them.
If you aren't ready to STRIKE over this in two years, all is lost.

What's that? Do the exact same thing and Leaseback the new 900ER orders to Allegiant or Virgin for slave wages? Hey, it's not Air Group operational control, so no problem.