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No AAI and LUV cannot compete together in ATL. It will be the death nail in AAI in ATL.
I believe that USA has international out of PHL. Different feed, O and D and markets. Kind of like F9, LUV, and UAL out of DEN.
DAL and AAI can compete. DAL and LUV can compete, but putting LUV in ATL with DAL and AAI, will lead to one being thinned out.
Dude, what the hell are you talking about? AirTran and Southwest compete out of BWI and MDW just fine. Atlanta may become a city that Southwest wants to add to there nationwide network. If it is, it will be like all the other cities AirTran and Southwest fly to and compete on the same routes. Airlines build networks and route structures for their customers. It is not solely about trying to put one company out of business. It's like you are saying ooooh if Southwest comes to Atlanta, AirTran is in trouble! Where do you get this crap. It's like your manhood is being challenged here. Grow up! Southwest will probable provide service to Atlanta by the end of next year. If they do, Delta and AirTran will be competing with Southwest like they do in every other city the three carriers compete out of.
 
CL-65 doesn't need to grow up. He is a pretty smart guy and knows what is going on at Delta. If Southwest came to ATL, AAI would be in trouble.

You talk about how AAI and SWA work together in MDW and BWI. Who else do they compete with out of those markets? Nobody. You can't have three airlines out of ATL. Delta will not allow this to happen.
 
CL-65 doesn't need to grow up. He is a pretty smart guy and knows what is going on at Delta. If Southwest came to ATL, AAI would be in trouble.

You talk about how AAI and SWA work together in MDW and BWI. Who else do they compete with out of those markets? Nobody. You can't have three airlines out of ATL. Delta will not allow this to happen.

Actually it is SWA, AAI, and Delta in Orlando and it looks like Delta is reducing their flying.
 
CL-65 doesn't need to grow up. He is a pretty smart guy and knows what is going on at Delta. If Southwest came to ATL, AAI would be in trouble.

You talk about how AAI and SWA work together in MDW and BWI. Who else do they compete with out of those markets? Nobody. You can't have three airlines out of ATL. Delta will not allow this to happen.
So him knowing about what is going on at Delta has to do with what? Hell as far as we know, Southwest may merge with AirTran in the future, I don't know and really don't care. I didn't say Southwest and AirTran work together in MDW and BWI. Southwest and AirTran compete against one another in MDW and BWI. They also compete against one another along with US Airways in PHL. They compete against one another in MCO along with Delta and Jetblue, and they compete against one another in TPA along with Delta and US Airways. So again, what are you and your buddy trying to say that has meaning here, nothing. Southwest will probable enter in the Atlanta market next year, ok. If they do, Southwest will be adding to their nationwide network. So lets get some perspective here. Southwest entering into the Atlanta market will hurt both Delta and AirTran, will it be the demise of AirTran? Probable not.
 
Guess that makes Delta smart, not too many families going to these vacation destinations with a bad economy, huh?
With the Iceland banks collapsing last week and a global economy in a tale spin, we will see how well Delta's international expansion works out. This business in this economy is going to be rough for all airlines.
 
Actually it is SWA, AAI, and Delta in Orlando and it looks like Delta is reducing their flying.

MCO is no ATL. MCO is primarily a leisure destination, ATL is a major hub (for both AAI and DL). I would be suprised if SW is even interested in coming into ATL in the current condtions. Look how long it took for them to announce MSP service - and there is no major LCC even based there.
 
Trust me I have seen some numbers and it would be a blood bath.
And yes, LUV may indeed buy AAI, but not if it is healthy. They will want them for a deal.
Right now AAI is fairly healthy.
 
Get over it guys... LUV ain't buying AAI. And LUV aint goint to come to ATL. There is just way too much competition between AAI and DAL for LUV to be profitable. It would be one thing if AAI and DAL were both legacy carriers with high costs, but AAI has lower costs then LUV. LUV can't simply enter the market and put the hurt to AAI and DAL.. Not without bleeding themselves. And LUV is about making money, not bleeding it. If they could come into ATL and get 20 gates then maybe, but still probably wouldn't happen. Their are a lot of loyal AAI and DAL pax that fly out of ATL. It kinda reminds me of when everyone said LUV was gonna put Alaska out of business in SEA. ALA is doing just fine, and LUV has taken their expansion elsewhere.

DEN is a totally different situation. F9's costs are much higher and they are hurting. AAI should have merged with them 3 years ago. If they had, you wouldn't see LUV doing what they are in DEN.

LUV will expand where they feel they can make money. And ATL isn't one of those places with the current competition... Simple as that... They slowed thier expansion in PHL and took it to DEN. Now they have added a few flights out of MSP.. They may become pretty big out of MSP. If so, that would be another city that AAI failed to grab when it was available.
 
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