Airtran sucking more money from the flying public

[Max Powers]

Or add $15 to all the airfares instead of nickle and diming to death.

Yea but what about us that don't want to pay the fifteen bucks and can make it with only one carry-on????

You should have to pay for the service that is provided to you. Just like corporate jets should pay a fair share of the services that they receive. But they would rather let the fat cats off while the blue collar joe in the back of my Boeing pays 38 percent tax on his ticket.

It's time for CHANGE. Thats GD right.

 

[Metro752]

According with KEVIN HEALY Sr Vice President of marketing for Airtran Airways, company will now charge additional $15 for first check bag on top of the $25 already charge for second bag!!

Come on guys!! fuel is down to the mid 60's a barrel capacity and pilots are been reduce, so how bad is your financial troubles?

Go Away. Raise the prices more I say.

 

[bcp7]

I've never seen a jump-seater who checked in bags unless it was a gate check on a commuter which just doesn't have the space for the std roll-on bags. When I jump-seat, my bags stay with me except on the small boys who don't have room. I don't want to be stuck somewhere without at least one change of clothes.

If you're on a pass, you will probably have to pay the fee like everybody else.

I do not check bags unless there is absolutely no choice. My roll-on and computer case are all I need, but I usually travel alone.

 

[spitfire1500]

Heck I'll pay it. My company just authorized travel on USAirways to Den from CLT and back for training at the hot deal price of $1200.....I rebooked on Air Tran for $402.00 and get to travel bank half of 800 bucks and don't have to pay for my can of Coke ( I'm still boycotting LCC until they quit charging for water).

 

[Ty Webb]

Come on guys!! fuel is down to the mid 60's a barrel capacity and pilots are been reduce, so how bad is your financial troubles?

What do you care? What are you, about 20? Living in your parent's basement? Christ, get a life, kid.

 

[GSXR600]

What do you care? What are you, about 20? Living in your parent's basement? Christ, get a life, kid.

......lol.....no need to take it soo personal.
ohh!! I am 35 and live in the NYC. No basement there!

 

[Capt.LongThrust]

......lol.....no need to take it soo personal.
ohh!! I am 35 and live in the NYC. No basement there!

That explains the pair of balls hanging underneath the tranny bending over the bike.

 

[Hung Start]

Yea but what about us that don't want to pay the fifteen bucks and can make it with only one carry-on????

You should have to pay for the service that is provided to you. Just like corporate jets should pay a fair share of the services that they receive. But they would rather let the fat cats off while the blue collar joe in the back of my Boeing pays 38 percent tax on his ticket.

It's time for CHANGE. Thats GD right.

Well, figure a good chunk of that is to payoff the pension guarantee that most of the airlines have "imposed" on the rest of the public.

No bailouts for us frac guys, not needed.

Pick another complaint, the taxes on the ticket just help keep you in business.

 

[JT12345]

According with KEVIN Come on guys!! fuel is down to the mid 60's a barrel capacity and pilots are been reduce, so how bad is your financial troubles?

Not for Airtran. We are hedged at $120 a barrel. The fares overall are cheap, and if you are the type that doesn't have checked bags you save even more money.

I think it is pretty easy to pack for a week in one bag that fits in the overhead or under the seat. If you can't pack that well there are websites out there I am sure with plenty of tips. If you have so much crap that you can't fit it in one bag that is your problem.

more Weight = more fuel burn on an airplane

 

[RP170]

You should have to pay for the service that is provided to you. Just like corporate jets should pay a fair share of the services that they receive. But they would rather let the fat cats off while the blue collar joe in the back of my Boeing pays 38 percent tax on his ticket.

Sounds like something Obama would say. Our owners our providing plenty of money to the government as it is in the form of income taxes, etc.

Our owners pay a monthly management fee (thousand of dollars) plus thousands of dollars for fuel per flight on top of the hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars they pay to buy a share of an aircraft. They are paying more than their fair share for services received.

That's a bit different than paying taxes on an airline ticket. I do agree that paying 38% in taxes on an airline ticket is rediculous though especially when consistantly receiving poor service.

 

[maxblast72]

Not for Airtran. We are hedged at $120 a barrel.

Airtran is only hedged 30% for November and December. So we are paying close to $2 a gallon for Jet A for 70% of fuel needs. Rumors are of a small profit for 4th quarter. Airtran.com showing an estimate of a $80 million profit for 2009.

We will be OK. Profits and a more labor friendly NMB should help us get some leverage for contract 2009.

 

[FIREMAN]

Airtran was never hedged at 120. In the last SEC filling for 3rd Q a lot of the collaring was undone.

 

[gearup5]

[
We will be OK. Profits and a more labor friendly NMB should help us get some leverage for contract 2009.[/quote]

Why do we blame the administration for or lack of a contract. It is our lack of unity and a set of balls that has prevented us from getting anything done with our contract. Last I check the president was not sitting in on our BOD meetings....
I guess everything will be better with the choosen one..

 

[jhiflyin]

Do you think now is the time to push for a contract. The company will do nothing but a concessionary contract with the industry in the condition it is in. The contract we (cough) HAVE could be alot worse. Now dont get me wrong there are still plenty of things wrong with it and need to be fixed. However paticence can be our best friend. Look at what happened with the contract we are under (cough) now. the contract Neg. were doing the same thing dragging out. Then the compny needed boeing to refinance, boeings responce was not til your labor (pilot) groups contract was done. It was amazing how quick we had a contract. The same thing can and will happen again. There will come an opening the company wants and will have to sit down with the pilot group and offer us what is right with a new contract to get what they want. Now I know there are as many opinions out there are pilots so go at it.

 

[maxblast72]

Why do we blame the administration for or lack of a contract. It is our lack of unity and a set of balls that has prevented us from getting anything done with our contract. Last I check the president was not sitting in on our BOD meetings....
I guess everything will be better with the choosen one..

I definitely don't think everything will be better with the chosen one. I think the economy will be worse as everyone will think the government will be there to bail them out. Also, not too thrilled with the green Democrats objecting to every new refinery, drilling rig, or nuclear plant proposed to be built over the last 30 years.

But I try to look on the bright side as he will be our president for the next 4 years. I hope he can find some bi-partisan solutions for helping our economy (not fix the economy, the government can't fix anything). I am also encouraged that the NMB should swing more to left over the next year which should help us gain some leverage and share in the profitability should be able to attain that in 2009.

 

[gearup5]

I definitely don't think everything will be better with the chosen one. I think the economy will be worse as everyone will think the government will be there to bail them out. Also, not too thrilled with the green Democrats objecting to every new refinery, drilling rig, or nuclear plant proposed to be built over the last 30 years.

But I try to look on the bright side as he will be our president for the next 4 years. I hope he can find some bi-partisan solutions for helping our economy (not fix the economy, the government can't fix anything). I am also encouraged that the NMB should swing more to left over the next year which should help us gain some leverage and share in the profitability should be able to attain that in 2009.

I hope you are right.

 

[Ty Webb]

Do you think now is the time to push for a contract. The company will do nothing but a concessionary contract with the industry in the condition it is in.

The Company would have no choice if each pilot would only pull their head out of their collective @sses and took charge of the situation. . . . and that's the fact, Jack.

 

[wood pecker]

Did anyone read the ajc article about Southwest looking at either Spirit or AirTran for Carribean code shares?

Southwest stated that Spirit is an even more bare bones ops than them.

The article metonioned Southwest posted a loss and now is focussing on code shares = Some one for Mexico, Canada, Hawaii, Caribbean.

Can the NPA tell how much the re-training cost for all those displacements and if the reduced staff is saving money?

What a way to reward employees for getting #1 in customer satisfaction. Take a look in the GO magazine about how the employees are so great.

How many furloughed pilots will get a present from management? Thank you pilots for looking out for the kids of the furloughed pilots. (Maybe a positive ad in the ajc to inform the public how generous our pilots are.)

Good luck and stay safe. (I would say don't fly sick but United just got sued for the same statement and the judge ruled in favor of the airline not ALPA.)

Sorry I don't work there anymore, I really miss the negotiating years. The Holidays do mean more when you know you have them all off.