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ORLANDO, Fla., Oct. 26 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- AirTran Holdings, Inc., (NYSE: AAI), the parent of AirTran Airways, Inc., today reported year-to-date net income of $18.8 million or $0.20 per diluted share compared to $7.7 million or $0.09 per diluted share in 2005. For the third quarter 2006, AirTran Airways reported a net loss of $4.3 million or $0.05 per diluted share, which compares to net income of approximately $1.0 million or $0.01 per diluted share in the year earlier period.
Included in the third quarter results is a non-cash, net of tax charge of $1.5 million or $0.02 per share, to record additional free ticket liability related to the Company's highly successful 2005 Wendy's promotion. This amount will be recognized as future revenue when the tickets are used.
AirTran Airways continued to set third quarter records with passenger revenue of $467.2 million and total customers of over 5.1 million. Commenting on the quarter Joe Leonard, AirTran Airways' chairman and chief executive officer said, 'Given the impact of increased security concerns and changes to regulations regarding carry-on items that occurred we began to see a slow down in the end of August. However, as we stated in our September traffic release we have begun to see a return to more normal booking levels in mid-November.'
For the third quarter AirTran Airways' average fare rose to $90.94 or an 11.0 percent increase compared to the third quarter 2005 average fare of $81.96. Bob Fornaro, AirTran Airways' president and chief operating officer said, 'The pricing environment has allowed us to off-set a 23 percent increase in year-over-year jet fuel prices. We are hopeful that the current fuel outlook for the fourth quarter remains favorable.'
AirTran Airways' non-fuel unit cost performance continued to improve at 6.04 cents per available seat mile, reflecting a 4 percent reduction compared to 2005. Commenting on the quarter Stan Gadek, senior vice president of finance and chief financial officer, said, 'Our new 737-700s continue to improve the overall efficiency of our operation. From higher utilization to lower fuel burn, the 737 is an integral part of our strategy to achieve industry leading non-fuel costs.'
Highlights of AirTran Airways' accomplishments and service enhancements during the third quarter and to date include:
* Announced service to Stewart International Airport in Newburgh, N.Y., and new seasonal service to Daytona Beach, Fla., which will begin January 11, 2007. * Announced expansion to many Florida cities including: Detroit to/from Fort Lauderdale, Fort Myers, and Tampa; as well as Dayton and Milwaukee to/from Tampa. Winter service to Florida has been increased to accommodate customers in Chicago, Detroit, Indianapolis, Akron/Canton, Flint, Bloomington, Moline/Quad Cities and Milwaukee. Also announced additional Florida service from White Plains, N.Y. to Fort. Lauderdale, Fort Myers and Tampa. All new service will begin this winter. * Launched nonstop service between Gulfport-Biloxi International Airport and Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport. * Received delivery of four Boeing 737-700 aircraft during the quarter. * The receipt of the prestigious Tony Jannus Aviation Award by our chairman and chief executive officer, Joe Leonard for his achievements in aviation.
 
No one wants to come out and say it, but it is difficult to compete against bankrupt carriers who charge rediculous fares while they're "protected", AKA DELTA
 
AirTran typically makes most of the money for the year in the 4th and 2nd quarters, due to it's heavy emphasis on north-south traffic. First and third quarters are often a wash.


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AirTran typically makes most of the money for the year in the 4th and 2nd quarters, due to it's heavy emphasis on north-south traffic. First and third quarters are often a wash.


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A loss is a wash? I though breaking even was a wash? As to those cheap fares who started the fare war? Was it not AAI that had the catering trucks with "if this truck is not parked at your plane you are paying too much"?

How will this impact the contract talks?
 
Here's another one of their conceited slogans (dont quote me):

"Every airline uses the same gas, so why do the others charge more?"

Well I guess because the others actually like turning a damn profit. $90 avg fare and you guys charge jumpseaters, might as well just call it "RyanAirAmerica."
 
A loss is a wash? I though breaking even was a wash? As to those cheap fares who started the fare war? Was it not AAI that had the catering trucks with "if this truck is not parked at your plane you are paying too much"?

How will this impact the contract talks?


AAI is still going to be well in the black for the year, so from the pilot's perspective this quarterly earnings report means nothing as it relates to contract negotiations.
 
No one wants to come out and say it, but it is difficult to compete against bankrupt carriers who charge rediculous fares while they're "protected", AKA DELTA

They're just doing their best to compete against your ridiculous $39 shuttle fares or you $31 one way Halloween "Jetboo" fares. Because that's really rational.

On top of that they have to compete with trash dumster searchers looking for used Wendy's cups so they can fly for free on Airtran.

This isn't a legacy problem, this is trying to deal with LCC BS.
 
A loss is a wash? I though breaking even was a wash? As to those cheap fares who started the fare war? Was it not AAI that had the catering trucks with "if this truck is not parked at your plane you are paying too much"?

How will this impact the contract talks?

Interesting, you must have noticed those trucks in ATL, probably during your commute to ORD. My guess, you were a former rEAL that got on with United? You probably stayed in the original airline communities like Tucker or Stone Mountain, possibly you moved to Lake Lanier? Now I understand your bitterness, having a constant reminder of a terrible time when you commute to work must be tough.
 
A loss is a wash? I though breaking even was a wash?

It's a wash because we have been profitable every year for the last six years. Did this really need explaining?

As to those cheap fares who started the fare war? Was it not AAI that had the catering trucks with "if this truck is not parked at your plane you are paying too much"?

What fare war? What alternate reality are you living in? AirTran is making money every year . . . howsabout yer airline?

How will this impact the contract talks?

About as little as your disappearance from this board would impact my life.

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Here's another one of their conceited slogans (dont quote me):

"Every airline uses the same gas, so why do the others charge more?"

Well I guess because the others actually like turning a dang profit. $90 avg fare and you guys charge jumpseaters, might as well just call it "RyanAirAmerica."

We might as well call it "Another airline that won't be employing your ignorant @ss" . . . . I'll put a call in to Marketing.

If you haven't noticed, this airline makes money, while growing at over 20% a year, for each of the last 6 years.

When we need advice, though, we'll be sure to solicit input from a mindless, masturbating moron such as yourself . . . when we can pry you away from your EM4, that I am sure you are only flying for the highest of wages.


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Like befuddled toddlers whose lollipop has just been taken away from them, they stand, wide-eyed, tensed up, wailing irrationally. No understanding, no reason, no logic can invade their cloud of confusion about why life is so unfair.
 
The way I read it, AirTran is still 23.1 million in the black for the year.

Fletch
 
SAP 2 trades are being awarded- my first one was at 1224.

Hmmm . . . 17 days off, Thanksgiving off, couple of weekends off . . . yeah, it sucks to be a 5th year 737 Captain at AirTran.

Guess I'll go find a dog to kick . . . ;)
 
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Boy the "LCC's" are really on a roll.

So who will be in BK first, JBLU or Air Trash?

I'll go with JBLU, and put the over-under at 5 years.
 
Actually they have been around since 93. So I think you need to your math again.


I know. Did they make money when they were Valujet? I think they had some losses during that period but no one wants to admit the heritage of this carrier.
 
Grossly overpaid management is the reason. The $ amount of the loss will again equal to that of the BOD’s performance bonus for the year. Not like it hasn’t happened before... How much more does Leonard make compared to his counterparts at ANY other airline, major or not? The disparity is huge & unjust (Southwest's CEO makes less). I thought no one was "special" at this airline & everyone was a "crewmember."
 
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SAP 2 trades are being awarded- my first one was at 1224.

Hmmm . . . 17 days off, Thanksgiving off, couple of weekends off . . . yeah, it sucks to be a 5th year 737 Captain at AirTran.

Guess I'll go find a dog to kick . . . ;)

Hey Ty,

I don't have a dog in this fight, but you may want to employ some humility. Yeah, you guys are doing ok now, but we all know that can change in an instant. No one is immune. However, your posts are always so condescending to everyone. I know you get flack everytime you post, but did you ever think why?

I wish you AAI guys continued success - many of my former ATA buds work there now.
 
Hey Ty,

I don't have a dog in this fight, but you may want to employ some humility. Yeah, you guys are doing ok now, but we all know that can change in an instant.

Yup. Agreed.


No one is immune. However, your posts are always so condescending to everyone.

Only when provoked . . .

I know you get flack everytime you post, but did you ever think why?

Who really cares what squirts out of the nozzle of some of these dooooosh -bags like Chucky/LT3210/Snake/etc.? They're a disgruntled bunch of wieners and whiners and are not to be taken seriously at any cost . . . .


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Here's my 2-cents... The majors have their costs under control now and they have HUGE route structures with flights all around the world. This makes them more desirable than the LCC's (where are you gonna want to go with your frequent flier miles?) I would be willing to bet that if the LCC's continue to struggle, you will see consolidation amoung LCC's in order to achieve a stronger route structure around the U.S. Also, don't be suprised when the LCC's realize how important international routes are to the Legacy's and start to enter the overseas markets. (your already seeing some of that with Mexico and the Carribean). The tables may be starting to lean towards the Legacy's, but, if you think the LCC's are gonna roll over, you are wrong. Remeber, many of them made money during the biggest downturn in U.S. airline history. I bet its not a stretch to say that in 10 years there will be no such thing as low fair carriers.. Just airlines. As far as AAI loosing money, not really a big deal, I think they will still make a fair chunk of money for 2006. BTW.. I wouldn't be suprised to see an AAI/Frontier merger. Or an AAI/Alaska merger (this one would only happen if AL started hurting, and someone like AMR didn't buy them first). Or, how about a JBlue/Spirit merger (this would take seats off the east coast and give JBlue some good gates). How about JBlue/Frontier?? Things changed for the Legacy's, their commuters, and things will change for the LCC's as well.....
 
Don't bother Ty, I figure he is a disgruntled ex Eastern pilot hired at UAL. If we started flying to O'Hare from Atlanta, he would be all smiles trying to hitch a ride, then still bash us anonymously on this forum. Too bad the majority of pilots at AirTran were in High School or College when EAL went down. Very sad individual, try not to raise his blood pressure, he might make Captain at United if they raise the retirement age.
 
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Who really cares what squirts out of the nozzle of some of these dooooosh -bags like Chucky/LT3210/Snake/etc.? They're a disgruntled bunch of wieners and whiners and are not to be taken seriously at any cost . . . .

I agree; I've had my own run-ins with Chucky. I think people get a kick out of getting a rise out of posters on this board.
 
Ty Webb, how can you say pay raises are justified now that you are losing money and the legacies are after you?
 
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