AirTran QOL vs $$$

[redflyer65]

Don,

When Gary speaks, it's not fear mongering. We (the Southwest Pilots), have lived it. See Bake's post above.

It seems we can speak until we are blue in the face with some Airtran guys and they immediately go to 'fear mongering'. If I were in your shoes, I would listen up to Gary and tell ALPA that you want to be apart of the list. This deal is slip sliding away with every ALPA mis-step.

This is not fear mongering, it's reality.

RF

 

[Kharma Police]

Don,

When Gary speaks, it's not fear mongering. We (the Southwest Pilots), have lived it. See Bake's post above.

It seems we can speak until we are blue in the face with some Airtran guys and they immediately go to 'fear mongering'. If I were in your shoes, I would listen up to Gary and tell ALPA that you want to be apart of the list. This deal is slip sliding away with every ALPA mis-step.

This is not fear mongering, it's reality.

RF

I think you guys are afraid of saying, "no" to Gary which is good (for us). He is obviously not used to it, as shown by him being surprised and upset about ALPA's decision. My question is, does SWAPA have the balls to say, "no" to Gary? I think you guys talk tough but will roll over in a heart beat. I mean, you guys couldn't even say, "no" when they took some silly headset from you.

 

[redflyer65]

I think you guys are afraid of saying, "no" to Gary which is good (for us). He is obviously not used to it, as shown by him being surprised and upset about ALPA's decision. My question is, does SWAPA have the balls to say, "no" to Gary? I think you guys talk tough but will roll over in a heart beat. I mean, you guys couldn't even say, "no" when they took some silly headset from you.

Kharma,

Thanks for stepping into it dude. You have no idea what you are talking about. We've said NO to him before. You need to do a little more research before you stick your neck out like that. The letter from Gary and the pilots at the GO mean that we are ready to accomplish this in-house if needed. If you don't believe that, then procede at your own caution, and Good Luck.

RF

 

[Kharma Police]

Kharma,

Thanks for stepping into it dude. You have no idea what you are talking about. We've said NO to him before. You need to do a little more research before you stick your neck out like that. The letter from Gary and the pilots at the GO mean that we are ready to accomplish this in-house if needed. If you don't believe that, then procede at your own caution, and Good Luck.

RF

Don't worry, he will give SWAPA the opportunity to say, "no" in the future to a big decision. I would love to watch Steve Chase try and do it!

Quick question, can you guys refuse a draft or extension? If so Red, have you ever done it?

 

[redflyer65]

We've turned down an entire Section 6 contract Kharma.

 

[Kharma Police]

We've turned down an entire Section 6 contract Kharma.

And you got rid your of hats too, you guys have some serious huevos!

 

[redflyer65]

Kharma,

You can wear that hat if you want to, it might garner some funny looks...just like the WON LUV lanyards.

RF

 

[bendover]

This needs to go to arbitration. That way a neutral 3rd party arbitrator will come up with something fair for all. Why would either side fear this? They shouldn't.

 

[Empennage]

This needs to go to arbitration. That way a neutral 3rd party arbitrator will come up with something fair for all. Why would either side fear this? They shouldn't.

....because this works out so well.

 

[OurMoney1]

This will go down in the books as one of the bigger airline union plunders of this decade.

What were those guys thinking???