AirTran Possibly Raising Cash for ???

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Delta's market cap is going to be less than 200mil in a couple of days. Why not buy the ATL airport at the bankruptcy sale. Put one of AirTran's old Eastern guys in charge of the seniority integration.

"Good goes round"

...anyone seen my stapler?

 

[-9Capt]

AirTran circling rival?
by Lou Whiteman
Updated 06:25 PM EST, Aug-18-2005





A recent shelf registration by AirTran Airways Inc. has industry analysts wondering if the discount airline is preparing a bid for one of its rivals.

AirTran filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission earlier this week to sell up to $225 million in debt securities, preferred and common stock and warrants. The Orlando, Fla., company said it would use proceeds for general corporate purposes, which could include debt retirement, working capital or "acquisitions of other airlines or their assets."

While the language of the filing was routine, it has rekindled talk by some in the industry that AirTran might be pursuing a bid for Midwest Air Group Inc., parent of Midwest Airlines. Oak Creek, Wis.-based Midwest now flies from its Milwaukee hub to about 24 large cities nationwide, as well as to nine markets from Kansas City, Mo.

Midwest has a market capitalization of about $42 million and about $66 million in total debt. The airline carried more than 2.3 million passengers in 2004, according to the Bureau of Transportation Statistics, ranking it 32 among all carriers, including independent airlines serving as regional affiliates.

By comparison, AirTran flew more than 13 million passengers last year across its mostly East Coast and Southern route map. The company, financially healthier than most airlines, has already shown its interest in expanding in the Midwest.

The airline last October struck a deal with ATA Holdings Corp. to acquire ATA Airlines' hub at Chicago's Midway Airport, along with other assets, for $87.5 million in cash. The U.S. Bankruptcy Court for the Southern District of Indiana, where ATA is reorganizing, scuttled that deal after Southwest Airlines Co. outbid AirTran for the Chicago assets.

"ATA was 'plan A,' but other options exist," said one person familiar with AirTran. While cautioning that he had no knowledge of negotiations between the carriers, the source called Midwest "a good fit at a similar cost" as the ATA deal for AirTran.

Analysts say AirTran seeks to grow in order to lessen its dependence on the its Atlanta hub, where the company is engaged in cutthroat competition with hometown Delta Air Lines Inc. The battle for Atlanta could become more difficult for AirTran in the months to come should Delta bring its costs down by declaring bankruptcy, which many believe could happen before 2006.

"They are clearly looking for a window to expand outside of Atlanta," Robert Mann, a Port Washington, N.Y.-based airline consultant, said of AirTran.

In addition to growing its operation in the heartland, a deal with Midwest also would give AirTran access to more Boeing 717 aircraft, the workhorse of the company's fleet. Midwest Airlines operates 19 717s, according to Federal Aviation Administration records, along with about a dozen older MD-80 jets.

AirTran has deals in place to acquire up to 100 larger Boeing 737s capable of flying longer missions, but the additional 717s could help the company connect more of the dots on its East Coast route map while deploying the 737s to expand its cross-country network.

A representative for AirTran cited a company policy of not commenting on rumors; a Midwest spokesman also declined comment.

Evergreen, Colo.-based airline analyst Michael Boyd said purchasing Midwest would give AirTran access to the lucrative Chicago market, its goal in trying to buy assets from ATA. However, a merger could spark a competitive response from Northwest Airlines Corp.

"Northwest has expanded significantly in Milwaukee," Boyd said. "I am not sure that wasn't to send a message to AirTran not to even think about moving in."

One downside to a purchase of Midwest is the company's ownership of Skyway Airlines Inc., which operates as Midwest Connect using smaller regional jets and turboprop aircraft. AirTran has previously experimented with using regional jets on some of its routes, but ultimately abandoned the concept.

Should a deal with Midwest fail to materialize, another potential AirTran target could include privately held Spirit Airlines Inc. of Miramar, Fla. Spirit has raised $225 million since February 2004 from private equity sources led by Oaktree Capital Management LLC in a move to build its operation across the Caribbean and Latin America, but the airline faces mounting competition as airlines big and small target tourist destinations such as those Spirit serves.

AirTran also could make another run at ATA should that company's agreement with Southwest falter, or attempt to purchase gates or other assets at Washington's Dulles International Airport from struggling FlyI Inc. should that company need to restructure.

But Boyd said AirTran has enough organic growth opportunities that it does not need to buy another airline, and cautioned the company against overextending itself in a deal.

"Airlines don't go out of business by missing opportunities," he said. "They go out of business jumping at them."

 

[Chuck Yogourt]

Very interesting article. I look forward to telling you Air Tran boys to raise my gear. I have over 15 years with Midex and that's way more than your most senior captain so move over or FORGET IT. WE DON'T WANT YOU.

 

[-9Capt]

Very interesting article. I look forward to telling you Air Tran boys to raise my gear. .

I bet it'll be another ATA type of deal that won't include pilots.

 

[TV9Driver]

I mean absolutely no disrespect to you Chuck, but the rumors that have been floating around is that AirTran will be buying the pieces, not the people - with the people getting preferential interviews. Of course it's all rumor until you hear about it on the news.

Personally, I was kind of surprised to hear about Spirit. I guess I hadn't thought of them as a possible partner. But now the announcement of service to Detroit makes more sense.

 

[gt1900]

Hey Chuck...If we buy you, we could just staple you to the bottom of the seniority list as well...Then I will be asking you to raise the gear... Just kidding with you. Who knows what will happen. But that rumor has been going around for a long time. But I have been hearing more rumors of late, and that was even before this article!!

 

[Ty Webb]

Very interesting article. I look forward to telling you Air Tran boys to raise my gear. I have over 15 years with Midex and that's way more than your most senior captain so move over or FORGET IT. WE DON'T WANT YOU.

I hear people debating the merits of fences, or staples, or simply acquiring assets.

Generally, I lean towards the fences/integrated list camp, but when I read stuff from Chuckie Boy, it sure makes me realize very quickly that it doesn;t take very many "Chucks" to make for a lot of problems and heartburn.

Congratulations, Chuckie Boy . . . . you're the strongest argument I've heard yet for buying assets and then just interviewing. I hope your co-workers feel the same as you, because you're the jackass that is braying for all of them on this board.

 

[Phaedrus]

Well said, Ty.

 

[TWA Dude]

I have over 15 years with Midex and that's way more than your most senior captain so move over or FORGET IT.

Need I remind you of TWA/AA? ALPA will do little to help you. I sincerely hope for the best for you guys, regardless, being a MKE resident myself.

 

[Chuck Yogourt]

I hear people debating the merits of fences, or staples, or simply acquiring assets.

Generally, I lean towards the fences/integrated list camp, but when I read stuff from Chuckie Boy, it sure makes me realize very quickly that it doesn;t take very many "Chucks" to make for a lot of problems and heartburn.

Congratulations, Chuckie Boy . . . . you're the strongest argument I've heard yet for buying assets and then just interviewing. I hope your co-workers feel the same as you, because you're the jackass that is braying for all of them on this board.

Please son, change your avator. It's so Gay or is that just you. And don't worry about buying Midex and interviewing either. We are not for sale and we are not going anywhere. Who's your daddy Ty Boy? No, really, who is your daddy?

You are a gutless little worm.

 

[Phaedrus]

If Ty's avator (sic) leads you to question his preferences, what does yours say about you? It seems there's some angst in your life Mr. Yogurt. I'm pretty sure that no one here is "worrying" about buying Midex, it's simply a rumor being bandied about. You're the one talking smack about how you can't wait to "tell us to raise your gear". So far the only thing being raised is your blood pressure...or so it would seem.

 

[Ty Webb]

Please son, change your avator. It's so Gay or is that just you. And don't worry about buying Midex and interviewing either. We are not for sale and we are not going anywhere. Who's your daddy Ty Boy? No, really, who is your daddy?

You are a gutless little worm.

Well, Chuckles, I had suspected before that you weren't really a Midex Capt., but since you don't recognize my avatar, it's clear that you aren't old enough to be a Midex Capt, and by your lame attempt at insults and your obvious pre-occupation with homosexuals, I'd guess that you're really about fifteen years old, and are probably a Midex employee's kid.

So, Chuckie Boy, the game's up. If you want to keep playing, you're going to have to play with yourself . . . . which you probably are pretty used to.

PS., Maybe you should talk to some real Midex employees about how they feel about you representing them on this board . . . .


.

 

[TheDonger]

Probably for some assets at Dulles once Independence kicks the bucket -- which sadly is looking like less than three months with their dwindling cash situation.

 

[fam62c]

Why would AirTran want Midwest?

This rumor has been around for a long time but it doesn't really make sense to me. What does Midwest have that AirTran would really want.....717's and some slots on the East Coast? Would it be worth taking the things they don't want (MD-80's, Skyway, employees/labor issues, facilities, debt, etc) to get what little they would actually use from Midwest? If Midwest were in bankruptcy and AirTran could pick and choose the pieces they wanted and reject the rest it might make sense but as long as Midwest is solvent it doesn't make sense. You can't just abandon the leases on the facilities, the MD-80's and the Skyway fleet (I don't think AirTran wants a feeder/regional); somebody would need to pay them off. Midwest is no bargain, the company doesn't make money and the fleet-business plan is in disarray.

 

[-9Capt]

We are not for sale and we are not going anywhere.

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Like you have any say in the matter.

 

[English]

AirTran should buy all the 737-700s that will be on the block soon as Aloha continues to return aircraft to their lessors.

 

[roughneck]

I believe those would probably already be spoken for if they are available.

 

[bestpilot]

Please son, change your avator. It's so Gay or is that just you. And don't worry about buying Midex and interviewing either. We are not for sale and we are not going anywhere. Who's your daddy Ty Boy? No, really, who is your daddy?

You are a gutless little worm.

I like met Ty Guy's pappy and he's like da Duuuuude.
I gots me a brewski buddy at da Midwesterly place and he's like da Dude too.
Silly rabbit, wazzzup wit you and like all da negative Kharma, it's like bringin me down, my brother from a bitter and broken ole mother. Duude, take somma dat Trix Yogourt outta da fridge, eat like booookooo quantities and like take a big ole growler in dat out house. Bro, maybe its dat constipation dats like makin you sound like a mean old grouchy dude.
Ty's avator is cool dude, dont you like know where its from??? Tell me you aints from like some kinda like Amish place where da peeps couldnt be watchin da TV, or maybe you like were naybors wit like Bobby Bouchet down in like da Bayou, yeah, Silly Rabbit and da Waterboy.

DUUUDE!!!! Dats it! Did da Waterboys momma ever be tellin you dat you gots a problem wit like your Medulla Oblongata??????? Dude, you should like get dat looked at cause dats like really bad and can like make you be hatin like all da peeps like all da time.

Yogurt Dude, go see da Doc and like call us when your like better. Peace and good Khama to you Silly Rabbit!

 

[SoCentralRain]

I like met Ty Guy's pappy and he's like da Duuuuude.
I gots me a brewski buddy at da Midwesterly place and he's like da Dude too.
Silly rabbit, wazzzup wit you and like all da negative Kharma, it's like bringin me down, my brother from a bitter and broken ole mother. Duude, take somma dat Trix Yogourt outta da fridge, eat like booookooo quantities and like take a big ole growler in dat out house. Bro, maybe its dat constipation dats like makin you sound like a mean old grouchy dude.
Ty's avator is cool dude, dont you like know where its from??? Tell me you aints from like some kinda like Amish place where da peeps couldnt be watchin da TV, or maybe you like were naybors wit like Bobby Bouchet down in like da Bayou, yeah, Silly Rabbit and da Waterboy.

DUUUDE!!!! Dats it! Did da Waterboys momma ever be tellin you dat you gots a problem wit like your Medulla Oblongata??????? Dude, you should like get dat looked at cause dats like really bad and can like make you be hatin like all da peeps like all da time.

Yogurt Dude, go see da Doc and like call us when your like better. Peace and good Khama to you Silly Rabbit!

That's the best response I've heard in a long time. Speaking of taking a big ole growler...

SCR

 

[pilotmyf]

hmmmm