AirTran, Leather Jackets on the way out ?

[mnboyev]

Just a question.. I attended recurrent this past week, and one of the instructors mentioned that leather was not available for new hires?

How can that be ? Maybe someone has better intel.....

 

[BSkin]

I sure hope you're getting bad gouge, 'cause all I have is the leather jacket. It helps out big-time during the winter months. That jacket and a long sleeve shirt will get you by in most temps -- plus helps out on the packing for 3-4 day trips when you don't have to pack a jacket! Though, it does suck leading up to May in ATL "having" to wear it.

 

[AV80R]

I saw a buddy of mine in training last week; the guys in the new-hire class were trying out leather jackets from the company store while I was there.

I think you got wrong info. Maybe the company store ran out of jackets and they need to reorder?

 

[mnboyev]

Thats good...! It is really good for commuting. Stuff it in a ball a pack it in your rollerboard. No wrinkles baby !!!

I dont neccessarily like how warm it is in the spring and early fall either.. Thanks for the reply and excellent intel !!! See ya on the line.

 

[Airtran Fanatic]

They are gone according to my info as well. The last class were the last ones that were able to order them. My buddy in the new hire class said that its his understanding that if you got them before that your good according to the uniform person. But Im just a new guy too....so im not 100% positive.

 

[-9Capt]

This is the exact coat, http://www.llbean.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?storeId=1&catalogId=1&langId=-1&categoryId=23786&sc1=Search&feat=sr just order one yourself. I checked the company store and their not listed any more. Now the trick is to find the shoulder bars.

 

[mnboyev]

ahhh.... just get the Sew Fine lady off of Virginia Ave to put a little velcro on it.. Yeah... not sure bout them epaulettes ? I know the company jackets... latest anyway... were Cooper brand.. thinking based in NJ ??

 

[FLB717]

Yes they are being cut. If yoiu have one or can find one you can still wear it. The reason, Joe Leonard wants them gone. Now we will have people who wear the leather, the suit coat, and now for your viewing pleasure trench coats. That will look, dare I say...........UNIFORM.

 

[Jmajoris]

This is the exact coat, http://www.llbean.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?storeId=1&catalogId=1&langId=-1&categoryId=23786&sc1=Search&feat=sr just order one yourself. I checked the company store and their not listed any more. Now the trick is to find the shoulder bars.

Try these guys. Great quality.

http://perroneleather.com/store/default.asp

 

[AV80R]

Hope they are not gone but if the are...

Mnboyev - “ahhh.... just get the Sew Fine lady off of Virginia Ave to put a little velcro on it.. Yeah... not sure bout them epaulettes ?” I know the company jackets... latest anyway... were Cooper brand.. thinking based in NJ ??


To order the epaulettes and the name patch contact Deanna P. Eason at HPDirect (I think they are affiliated with the company store somehow, I’m not sure?)

Direct Line: 678-781-9362, Main Line: 678-942-1801 Ext: 9362, email: [email protected], or [email protected]

Below is the info she sent me when I placed the order:

“I am not sure if you are a first officer or captain so I listed both items for you.

When you order the patch make sure you tell the customer service person that you also need the Velcro for the patch. [it’s brown Velcro which matches the jacket]

First Officer:

Patch: AT4999BK

LLBean Epaulettes: AT4985BR

Captain:

Patch: AT4998BR

LLBean Epaulettes: AT4986BR

[Note! They have regular epaulettes too; the LLBean version fits the jacket much better as they are slightly tapered and slightly smaller. If you look at the “regular” epaulettes for the jacket you’ll find out they are too large for the epaulet-strip on the jacket]

Thanks

Deanna"

Deanna P. Eason [email protected]

Purchasing Coordinator

Email: [email protected]

Direct Line: 678-781-9362

Main Line: 678-942-1801 Ext: 9362

Web: www.hpidirect.net

Shipping Method UPS Ground

Order Information


Epaulette - $10.50


Personalized Leather Patch - $25.00

Subtotal: $35.50

Shipping: $6.23

Tax: $0.00

Grand Total: $41.73

I still think www.airborne-leathers.com have the best deal. The leather itself is slightly thicker than the company version and you really can’t beat their price. Best thing to do, try the company store first, if it’s still available, and then try Abbots (close to Virgina Avenue). If you prefer Abbots’ version, buy from airborne-leathers. (I do NOT get any kickbacks, I promise! Every new-hire in my class ordered from them based on the price alone!)


Hope this helped,


av80r

 

[-9Capt]

ahhh.... just get the Sew Fine lady off of Virginia Ave to put a little velcro on it.. Yeah... not sure bout them epaulettes ? I know the company jackets... latest anyway... were Cooper brand.. thinking based in NJ ??

Mnboyev,

Who is this sew fine lady? My coats zipper got smashed in the cockpit door, can she replace it? Got a number?

 

[Phaedrus]

New guy question: what exactly has go be on the leather jacket for it to be regulation? I know it has to have the epaulets, but does it have to have the name patch? The company store site showed it both ways but didn't indicate what is required. Thanks.

 

[pilotpat-1]

If you cant have the leather jacket anymore, are you still allowed to order them outside the company if you are new hire just getting ready to start.

 

[-9Capt]

New guy question: what exactly has go be on the leather jacket for it to be regulation? I know it has to have the epaulets, but does it have to have the name patch? The company store site showed it both ways but didn't indicate what is required. Thanks.

I'd order the coat direct from LLBean (the UNinsulated coat) and get the epaulettes from HP Direct. I wouldn't worry too much about the name patch.

 

[FLB717]

Gotta have the patch or it is not in complience and the uniform police will get you.

 

[AV80R]

“I wouldn't worry too much about the name patch.”



I was reminded a couple of times by some captains that my jacket NEEDED a name patch (I was still waiting for it to be delivered) – after all, our regulations do (or did) require it.



The “sew fine lady” is the lady at the Abbots store on Virginia Avenue, she does a great job and is inexpensive.

 

[-9Capt]

I was reminded a couple of times by some captains that my jacket NEEDED a name patch (I was still waiting for it to be delivered) – after all, our regulations do (or did) require it.

There's your answer, tell them it's on back order. What kind of tool would even care enough to mention it?

 

[IAHERJ]

Have you flown with about 35% of our captains lately????

 

[-9Capt]

I haven't flow with any capt in over 5 years.

 

[atldc9]

The pleather jackets are sh*t anyway. They are wanna-be-tool-shi*- brown pleather.

They match navy blue really well. We should get the ones that SWA has.

You know they are bad when a freight dog with zero style won't even wear one...

 

[Ty Webb]

I wear 'em when it's colder than hell. Otherwise, it's the Captain Steubing look.

We retired the 35% that were tools . . . . didn't you get the memo?

Heh-heh. COme over to the 737, we're 97% tool-free, and the remaining 3 guys you can bid around.

 

[-9Capt]

COme over to the 737, we're 97% tool-free, and the remaining 3 guys you can bid around.

Ty,
I'm sure those other 2 guys don't appreciate you calling them tools.

 

[Ty Webb]

Heh-heh. I don't know . . . . I'd ask 'em, but they're living in a van . . . down by the river. . . . and he was a 717 guy.

Oh, wait, he retired this year.

 

[-9Capt]

It's official, a recent crew message says the leather jackets are history starting next year.

 

[BSkin]

It's official, a recent crew message says the leather jackets are history starting next year.

True, however next (2006) winter. Maybe Joe could give all of us who only have the leather jacket a free blazer -- yeah, I know I'm dreaming.

 

[Just thinking]

Just a thought in regards to the wearing of a blazer... if you have only one blazer to wear, you will have to dry clean it along with all of the trousers you wear with it. If you do not keep them dry cleaned together you will have a different shade of blue over time. Miniscule point but a point none the less.
Why do they call it a "pair" of trousers anyway...

Just thinking

 

[Phaedrus]

I am so bummed about this. First, the leather jacket is much more comfortable. Second, it is much easier to drag around with you on trips without worrying about wrinkles, etc. Third, you don't have to dry clean a leather jacket. Fourth, it's warmer and a fine makeshift raincoat to boot.
Does anyone know if you can get away with simply getting the blazer, or is it a must to get the blazer and the trenchcoat?....something else to drag around!

 

[Ty Webb]

True, however next (2006) winter. Maybe Joe could give all of us who only have the leather jacket a free blazer -- yeah, I know I'm dreaming.

What do you mean "give"? It's in the contract. If they change the uniform, they have to provide the item. Fill out the grievance form. When they have to choose between paying for 700 or 800 jackets at $200. a pop, the leather jackets will stay.

Fill out the form and relax.

 

[BSkin]

What do you mean "give"? It's in the contract. If they change the uniform, they have to provide the item. Fill out the grievance form. When they have to choose between paying for 700 or 800 jackets at $200. a pop, the leather jackets will stay.

Fill out the form and relax.

Good point! But at the same time, don't you think they'll find a way out of that, since the blazer was an option, when I opted for the leather?

I will try that when the time comes though.

 

[Ty Webb]

Nope . . . .