AirTran Interviews

[Mongolikecandy]

are you all paid block or better

Yes... on a per leg basis.

 

[RedDogC130]

The trip actually sched blocks 29+25 duty 40+45 TFP 34.40 at 101.99 TFP on 4th year pay (119.27 per sched block hour in this case)
overnights SFO/BDL/LBB(of course...I really have not seen this place in 2 years)
ground time 15+15, 12+30, 13+50
legs - day1 (2) day2 (4) day 3/4 (3)
plane changes on 3 of last 4 days.
flying with me...priceless

 

[dicko]

The trip actually sched blocks 29+25 duty 40+45 TFP 34.40 at 101.99 TFP on 4th year pay (119.27 per sched block hour in this case)
overnights SFO/BDL/LBB(of course...I really have not seen this place in 2 years)
ground time 15+15, 12+30, 13+50
legs - day1 (2) day2 (4) day 3/4 (3)
plane changes on 3 of last 4 days.
flying with me...priceless

Thanks. It looks like a productive trip with enough rest/beer.

It's a real shame that SWA isn't importing some of AirTran management.
It would only take a week for them to turn an efficient airline into a .... :bawling:

 

[Kharma Police]

Well. I still "try" to be professional and polite. You're right though, this whole Airtran PURCHASE has made me a little pissy.

A month ago all of them would have told you how much their job sucked and how much they hated their company. Today all you hear is "oh my God I just love what we have here at Airtran" or "we didn't want this 'merger', we wanted to stand alone."

If we would all just be honest with each other it'd sure be nice now wouldn't it?

Rant off. Silence mode re-engaged. Thanks for the reminder.

Gup

If it were not for my fellow employees that I genuinely enjoy working with then this would be as miserable as AA. I have always been impressed by the professionalism and positive attitude of my co-workers in the face of a management that views its employees as a liability not an asset. I am looking forward to working for a company with the opposite view.

Put another way, I believe in AirTran like I believe in my country, I just can't stand the people running both.

 

[ParrotheadGTI]

Update: Looks like November will definitely be the last of the newhire classes... only 7 true "newhires"

 

[dicko]

If it were not for my fellow employees that I genuinely enjoy working with then this would be as miserable as AA. I have always been impressed by the professionalism and positive attitude of my co-workers in the face of a management that views its employees as a liability not an asset. I am looking forward to working for a company with the opposite view.
.

The truth.

 

[Ty Webb]

As far as the comments on this thread about stapling us. If WN were taking only the pilots and non of the aircraft perhaps a staple would be considered. We are bringing over 130+ aircraft with us. How is it remotely fair to staple all of our pilots and then upgrade 750 WN guys to captain to replace our guys who would be moved back to F/O's? How could that be anywhere near considered fair and equitable?

You're trying to inject reason into an emotional argument. Let the arbitrators do it. In the end, no one will be completely happy, but we'll have a stronger, more profitable and growing company.

 

[texman]

Rpt 0855
1166 LAS 0955 BNA 1321 700 326 48 440
1166 BNA 1409 BWI 1606 700 157 35 216
1166 BWI 1641 MHT 1754 700 113 1238 150
Rls 1824 636 929 806 26 806 1209

Rpt 0605
1083 MHT 0632 PHL 0753 700 121 27 160
1083 PHL 0820 PIT 0932 700 112 27 140
1083 PIT 0959 LAS 1438 700 439 0 540
Rls 1508 712 903 840 840 1260


Total: 1348 1832 1646 26 1646 2469

Here is a typical high paying two day productive trip. This is straight time that paid 16.46 X 101.99tfp. 13.48 hours of block flying. 18.32 of duty. 12 hours of rest. Away from home 30 hours. Hope this helps

 

[texman]

This was my friends trip, and he said the only problem is PHL, delays. He did it again the other day. His trip had rigs. He made a killing.

 

[texman]

This trip was based off 3 years one day service. 4th year pay. My friend is at 6th year 116.60tfp X 16.46.

 

[texman]

You're trying to inject reason into an emotional argument. Let the arbitrators do it. In the end, no one will be completely happy, but we'll have a stronger, more profitable and growing company.

True DAT!

 

[CaptainKiwi]

You're trying to inject reason into an emotional argument. Let the arbitrators do it. In the end, no one will be completely happy, but we'll have a stronger, more profitable and growing company.

You are consistantly wishing this will goto arbitration... Do you throw in the towel this quickly all the time? Give the unions a chance to work this out.

 

[RedDogC130]

This was my friends trip, and he said the only problem is PHL, delays. He did it again the other day. His trip had rigs. He made a killing.

I rarely have a delay in PHL in the AM...knock on wood, I have rarely had any real delay in PHL...and if we do, our new terminal has good food.

 

[texman]

I rarely have a delay in PHL in the AM...knock on wood, I have rarely had any real delay in PHL...and if we do, our new terminal has good food.

Wait till Newark.

 

[Quiet Flight]

We are bringing over 130+ aircraft with us...How could that be anywhere near considered fair and equitable?

I'll probably regret this...

You do not bring 130+ aircraft with you. You bring your contract and your seniority list. That's it. You do not bring ATL, CAK, EYW, International flying, or a different fleet type. Just contract and seniority list. Parts of which will assuredly be altered/changed/discarded, etc...

SWAPA brings the same, CBA and seniority list. Those are the only two things either pilot groups "owns" and/or "brings". These are also the only "assets" to be considered as SLI moves forward.

Your company "brings" those other things. This is akin to a SWA pilot saying "we bring Boise!". It just ain't true.

 

[RedDogC130]

And 500 jets

 

[GuppyWN]

Your company "brings" those other things. This is akin to a SWA pilot saying "we bring Boise!". It just ain't true.

Don't be hatin' on Boise! It's my favorite overnight.

Gup

 

[Kharma Police]

I'll probably regret this...

You do not bring 130+ aircraft with you. You bring your contract and your seniority list. That's it. You do not bring ATL, CAK, EYW, International flying, or a different fleet type. Just contract and seniority list. Parts of which will assuredly be altered/changed/discarded, etc...

SWAPA brings the same, CBA and seniority list. Those are the only two things either pilot groups "owns" and/or "brings". These are also the only "assets" to be considered as SLI moves forward.

Your company "brings" those other things. This is akin to a SWA pilot saying "we bring Boise!". It just ain't true.

Interesting (and very amusing) rationalization, somehow I don't think the arbitrator will see things like you do.

 

[27 driver]

You are consistantly wishing this will goto arbitration... Do you throw in the towel this quickly all the time? Give the unions a chance to work this out.

I think he along with many others believes that it will end up in arbitration so why waste the time and create the hard feelings of a nasty negotiation when in the end it will be decided by an arbitrator. Not throwing in the towel but simply speeding the process along. In the end if an arbitrator decides our fate you really can't blame your union for a perceived bad integration.

 

[FlyWolf]

So, any word about the Nov class? any news from the training dept? Or is the Oct 18th class is the last one?

Thanks