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Airtran hit 12 cents per ASM when fuel was $4/gallon in 2008. Airtran CASM is way lower than that now with Q3 2009 CASM of 9.18 cents per ASM. Our nonfuel CASM of 6.10 cents per ASM was substantially lower than SWA nonfuel CASM of 7.11 cents per ASM (Q3 2009). So you right, even if we raise our nonfuel CASM .3-.5 cents per ASM due to a significantly better contract, we would still have a pretty large advantage over Southwest.
That's what I was trying to get at, but didn't have the data, thanks...

Always nice to have you around for financial analysis, even if it HAS been a number of years since you bought the beer. :D
 
That's what I was trying to get at, but didn't have the data, thanks...

Always nice to have you around for financial analysis, even if it HAS been a number of years since you bought the beer. :D
Actually it is pretty easy to dig up. Just go to Southwest.com or Airtran.com etc and go to "about us" section of the website, then investor relations, press releases, and look at about 3 or 4 weeks past end of each quarter and you can find full press release with the numbers you need. You can get any numbers you need in less than a minute or two. Nothing makes your posts a little better than a little historical actual data. Hard to argue against the numbers.

Of course management is going to spin the numbers to their advantage. Floy is already telling recurrent classes that we need to "tune down" our expectations. It is the union's job to provide alternative spin to give pilots both sides of the argument. That is why "The Hammer" publication produced by our SPC committee is important for all pilots to read.
 

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