airtran furloughs

[Max Powers]

Bingo!

Historically, though, this company has not realized the value of that goodwill. Can't see it on the Balance Sheet, or on the Income Statement, then it doesn't exist.

Funny example of this phenomenon was when we got ACARS activated. The Company was surprised to find that their on-time performance went down with the automatic reporting. They were shocked to find that when the pilots called the times in themselves, they were giving up a few bucks in favor of "on-time".

A whole 'nother great topic would be the "Law of Unintended Consequences", but that would be thread drift, 'fo sho'.

I know of no pilots who would give up a few bucks to give the airline a better on-time ranking. I do know if they stole a few minutes off the OUT time they might turn around and give a portion of that time to the IN time - Which is DOT reportable.

 

[jester757]

Furloughs...they suck. Having been there for a year and half I feel for anyone who is faced with it.

Costs/savings...they are there. Why else do it? I am sure there are hidden costs with each of us. Geez - UAL just thew out the first pitch with 1450 total furoughs today...only can guess what the next carrier will do. Seems like each group of clueless managment teams does what the other one does.

My guess they will use the threat to leverage concesions from you all and get them. Once they have them they will furlough anyhow. Managment is ruthless in these times. Again, having been down this road - hang on.

 

[carl p]

I would rather take a furlough and sit home, then gut the contract and spend years getting back what's lost. We haven't been able to get a good contract for the last few years and times were great.

 

[27 driver]

I would rather take a furlough and sit home, then gut the contract and spend years getting back what's lost. We haven't been able to get a good contract for the last few years and times were great.

Lets just hope that we don't get furloughed and slapped with concessions my friend.

 

[flying zephyr]

Unfortunately, whoever talked about hidden costs of employees is right. Taxes, insurance, retirement, jepps, etc, these are all "extra employee costs" One of my employers used to put our "hidden paycheck" their words, not mine on our pay stubs as if that made us feel better that we brought home so little money. Hope for the best, but plan for the worst. Cash, cash, cash that's the name of the game right now. God's speed, good luck

 

[Old Crow]

Since hidden costs are so expensive, then Bob and Klaus should fly all the planes... They could takes turns as Captain.

 

[27 driver]

Unfortunately, whoever talked about hidden costs of employees is right. Taxes, insurance, retirement, jepps, etc, these are all "extra employee costs" One of my employers used to put our "hidden paycheck" their words, not mine on our pay stubs as if that made us feel better that we brought home so little money. Hope for the best, but plan for the worst. Cash, cash, cash that's the name of the game right now. God's speed, good luck

Some might simply call these things the cost of doing business.

 

[Ty Webb]

I know of no pilots who would give up a few bucks to give the airline a better on-time ranking. I do know if they stole a few minutes off the OUT time they might turn around and give a portion of that time to the IN time - Which is DOT reportable.

Whatever, Buddy. Watched it happen many, many times.

 

[spitfire1500]

Unfortunately, whoever talked about hidden costs of employees is right. Taxes, insurance, retirement, jepps, etc, these are all "extra employee costs" One of my employers used to put our "hidden paycheck" their words, not mine on our pay stubs as if that made us feel better that we brought home so little money. Hope for the best, but plan for the worst. Cash, cash, cash that's the name of the game right now. God's speed, good luck

Hidden paycheck my butt....this is the cost of doing business.

 

[carl p]

What was said during the NPA conf. call? PM me if you like, thanks.

 

[FlyWolf]

What was said during the NPA conf. call? PM me if you like, thanks.

Carl, there is a thread in the majors with info on the conf call.

Good luck guys.

 

[carl p]

Roger that, i'll head over there. Thanks.