AirTran DRC - judgement !

[-9Capt]

When your company ceases to exist, your contract doesn't mean much.

Yet, here we are, years later, and the company still exists.


From the Mike VdV letter...

Southwest agrees that during the period of separate Pilot operations following close, it will adhere to and apply the provisions of the AirTran/ALPA Agreement to AirTran Pilots, unless and until that Agreement is changed pursuant to the Railway Labor Act

 

[K-Mart]

It's not romanticizing. You're simply immature. It's not necessary to have a deep seated hatred for the people you bargain against, and it is possible to see some redeeming qualities in them, even when much of their behavior is undesirable. SK was far, far from perfect, and his old school techniques hurt a lot of people. But there are far worse people to deal with in labor relations.



Ditto.

Sure right!

 

[redflyer65]

More like AirTran revisionist history. Started Sept 27, 2010.

 

[madjack]

I know it's amazing!

 

[DUBLINFLYER]

Why don't all you ALPA guys get together and vote out ALPA in place of SWAPA, you going there sooner or later. Less dues?

 

[PCL_128]

Why don't all you ALPA guys get together and vote out ALPA in place of SWAPA, you going there sooner or later. Less dues?

The decision is ultimately SWAPA's. If ALPA files with the NMB and SWAPA objects, it's unlikely that the Board will grant ALPA's request.

 

[waveflyer]

And why would Swapa object PCL?

(I think PCL stands for self fulfilled prophecy)

 

[PCL_128]

And why would Swapa object PCL?

From what I hear, SWAPA has indicated less than zero interest in representing the AirTran pilots until they're on the SWA side of the partition. I'm sure it has something to do with DFR concerns.

 

[madjack]

ALPA wasn't the problem, it was the MEC...

 

[waveflyer]

Maybe bc you just sued them?

Are you ever responsible for anything over there PCL?

 

[Ty Webb]

Maybe bc you just sued them?

Are you ever responsible for anything over there PCL?

Oh, Lord. . . .

No one sued anyone. There was a dispute filed. . . . and it was heard, and decided.

Let's all give it a rest, shall we? I know, not much fun in that.



Ty

 

[EngineThunder]

Maybe bc you just sued them?

Are you ever responsible for anything over there PCL?

If only the Airtran pilots could buy him for what he's worth and sell him for what he thinks he's worth............

 

[PCL_128]

Maybe bc you just sued them?

Are you ever responsible for anything over there PCL?

I've never sued anyone. Not sure what you're talking about.

 

[waveflyer]

I've never sued anyone. Not sure what you're talking about.

All I hear is blah blah constant deflection

 

[Britpilot]

Maybe we should.

I know that wasn't the only guy fired unjustly. So hostage taking and unjust firings were kinda the norm on the AirTran side. It's not at all that way at SW, thank God.

He was suspended not fired.
There were a few guys that were fired and a few did get their jobs back.
The work environment was hostile however and the firing threat was always there. During that time it was unpleasant to work here. It did improve to the extent that it was no longer a primary concern.

 

[737tanker]

The decision is ultimately SWAPA's. If ALPA files with the NMB and SWAPA objects, it's unlikely that the Board will grant ALPA's request.

The pilots of SWAPA just voted to change SWAPA's Constitution in order for SWAPA to be able to represent more than one pilot group with more than one CBA. This change was requested by the current BOD so it looks to me that SWAPA won't object to any request by the NMB to take over the representation of the AirTran side of the partition.

 

[PCL_128]

The pilots of SWAPA just voted to change SWAPA's Constitution in order for SWAPA to be able to represent more than one pilot group with more than one CBA. This change was requested by the current BOD so it looks to me that SWAPA won't object to any request by the NMB to take over the representation of the AirTran side of the partition.

Being prepared for something is not the same thing as willingly accepting it.

 

[tankerhead]

Being prepared for something is not the same thing as willingly accepting it.

Ever been to prison? That could be a Morgan Freeman quote from Shawshank.

 

[PCL_128]

No. But awesome movie.

 

[4day]

Hawaiian Airlines tops on-time rankings
In latest government rankings, Hawaiian Airlines first at arriving on time, Southwest is last
By The Associated Press
Nov 13, 2013 2:27 PM

Here are the government's rankings of U.S. airlines for arriving on time during September:

1. Hawaiian Airlines, 95.5 percent

2. Delta Air Lines, 90.3 percent

3. Endeavor Air, 88.8 percent

4. US Airways, 88.3 percent

5. Alaska Airlines, 87.6 percent

6. AirTran Airways, 86.8 percent

7. Virgin America, 84.9 percent

8. United Airlines, 84.6 percent

9. Mesa Airlines, 84.6 percent

10. American Airlines, 83.7 percent

11. ExpressJet, 83.4 percent

12. SkyWest Airlines, 83.2 percent

13. JetBlue Airways, 83.1 percent

14. American Eagle, 82.2 percent

15. Frontier Airlines, 76.9 percent

16. Southwest Airlines, 76.3 percent

Average of all U.S. airlines: 83.8 percent

Source: U.S. Department

Now that's great performance.