AirTran CDO/naps

[wood pecker]

How senior do your nap lines/ stand ups get awarded? Do your nap lines have 3 on 3 days off? Do you have premium pay to encourage getting from a-b faster?

Thanks gor any info.

 

[mnboyev]

I had naps last month... 14 days off... required contractually to have three days off after any series of CDO's.

Only pays 70. Only fly bout 40.

Seniority High and Low.... For FO's I think anybody can hold em.. The guys I have been flying with only do them the first month off OE then they have a hard line.

No premium pay for getting in under schedule. Some CDO's have really good ground times... Some nicht so gut... 3 hrs sleep max.

Hope this helps. Only out and back... No 'two step' to the overnite

 

[fletch717]

Some CDO's go senior, it depends on the city and the time of year. IE: Tampa stand ups go senior in January. By contract CDO's are 3 on 3 off. At some point on reserve you will hold a CDO if you want. Right now average reserve time is 2 months, then you can hold a hard line.

 

[Citrus Jockey]

Also, contractually the max number of stand-ups we can do is 3 followed by three days off. Al stand-ups are on stand-up lines and not mixed in with the general lines.

 

[mnboyev]

Come on over the water is Fantastic... We have Elton and Lime Coke.. LOL....

You would have fun as a Crew Member with AirTran.... Pay aint bad either..

 

[FLB717]

hardlines in two Mo. IF you are an FO, the reserve time on the Capt side is longer.

 

[Ty Webb]

Not on all airplanes . . . . .

 

[fletch717]

FLB717, Since the guy was asking he's not at AirTran. Thats why I only quoted reserve time for F/O.

Anyway you can control how long your time on reserve as a captain by not taking the upgrade right away.

 

[wood pecker]

Thank you for all of the responses. Only 2 months of reserve before holding a line is great news. Your 3 on 3 off for CDOs already makes me jealous. Across the concourse we have around 60 nap lines and fly 3 on 2 off with @40 block. We can usually average 3-6 hours of premium pay making a monthly block of @80 hours. (Our min guarantee is 75hours + under or overblock.)

I hope AAI continues their success, growth and pay raises with your contract period coming up.

 

['72Gremlin]

Forgive my ignorance... CDOs? nap lines?

--Military guy

 

[717pilot]

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[-9Capt]

You would have fun as a Crew Member with AirTran.... Pay aint bad either..

The first half of this sentance is true, the 2nd half is open for debate.

 

[-9Capt]

[QUOTE='72Gremlin]Forgive my ignorance... CDOs? nap lines?

--Military guy[/QUOTE]

Also called standups.
CDO=continuous duty overnight. You show up late, take the last flight out (to let's say Tampa), and work the first flight home the next morning. You get a hotel room for aprox 6-8hrs.

Personally I think they are dangerous. Some guys love them.

Some other CDO requirements at AT:
*Must begin and end in domicile
*Mininum 6hrs sechd ground time
*No flying may be assigned after a CDO
*Maximum of 3 in a row, followed by 3 calender days off.
*Pilots assigned CDO may not fly non-CDO trip that bid period, no mixing of CDO's and non-CDO, you do one or the other, period.
*No more than 33% of overnight stations may have CDO's on any given night.
*No less than 11hrs crew rest in domicile between CDO's

 

['72Gremlin]

-9
Wow, thanks for your explanation. I went back and reread this thread from the beginning. It makes a lot more sense now. Now I know how some civilians feel when they walk into a conversation dominated with military jargon...

Thanks for taking the "WTF-over" look off my face.

Gremlin

 

[CatfishVT9]

Dangerous, eh? Sometimes on the 737 side we get these deadhead to the west coast to immediately fly back on the redeye flights.........now that's insane.


I had one for this month and dropped that sucker as fast as I could. I need at least a little sleep before flying through the night.

 

[AA717driver]

You would have fun as a Crew Member with AirTran....

Oh yeah? Well, I heard all your flight attendants were SLUTS!

Oh, wait, that's a good thing...

Never mind. TC

 

[Ty Webb]

I had one for this month and dropped that sucker as fast as I could. I need at least a little sleep before flying through the night.

Hey, I do too . . . . OK, you can sleep the first half, and I'll sleep the second half. See, you didn;t have to drop it afterall!

 

[-9Capt]

Dangerous, eh? Sometimes on the 737 side we get these deadhead to the west coast to immediately fly back on the redeye flights.........now that's insane.

Can you do that and still stay under the 12hr duty day? Please tell me you're not waiving that part of the contract, that would be insane!