Airtran And Midwest Express

[gt1900]

Dude... PNS is far from the worst layover in the system... The beach, hooters, the crab place, and a million other places to get drinks and relax at the beach.. PNS is one of my top 3 favorites.. And I hope to hell we keep it..

 

[Lear70]

"I'm not here to speak for the NPA, but that is the information that is getting to the line pilots."

Lear70,

There has not been one single piece of news disseminated from the NPA Merger Committee to the pilot group. There is no news. The committee has been established in the event of a merger. Nothing else. To say otherwise is patently false.

The "information getting to the line pilots" is straight crew room rumors.

Then it's the most persistent rumor I've heard since I got here.

Been hearing the same thing for the last 2 months just about every time it comes up.

Like I said, not here to speak for anyone, just the word on the street. Maybe it'll go down like that, maybe it won't. Time will tell.

 

[Lear70]

Dude... PNS is far from the worst layover in the system... The beach, hooters, the crab place, and a million other places to get drinks and relax at the beach.. PNS is one of my top 3 favorites.. And I hope to hell we keep it..

I like the beach.

It's just the hotel that's god-awful.

You can't honestly say anything good about that place except for its location...

 

[SkiFishFly]

PNS the worst?

You should see where we stay in LA these days

 

[Lear70]

Where's that?

 

[twepilot]

Lets see..beach...scantily clad nubile, impressionable college girls...lots-o-bars...great food...on the other hand, crappy hotel...hmmm...which do I choose?...

RV

 

[mnboyev]

I like PNS.....17 hr layover ..hmm..hotel is ok....people are nice and lots to do unless you sit in your room and hang out on flightinfo....

 

[Wesb737fo]

Where's that?

The "god-awful pos 10X worse than the Crown Plaza we used to stay Holiday Inn". I think that is how its actually listed in the online hotel guide.

 

[Lear70]

Maybe I'm just crazy, but I prefer the nice Doubletree in TPA with a pool, close to the mall with movie theater, good restaurants and bars, and only a 10 minute drive from the airport...

If they had that here in PNS, I'd take it over the beach hotel any day. Now if they moved us across the street into the nice, new, Hampton that's right above the crab place (with beds that don't give you back pains, don't stink so bad you have to leave your door open the first hour you're in the room just to get the stink out, and no roaches), I probably would be a little more exhuberant.

And yes, beach girls are nice, but if I can't touch, it really doesn't matter to me one way or the other.

OK, I'm going to go for a morning run. Yes, on the beach. Before it rains.

 

[Flydaplane]

FYI whomever started this thread... Midwest Express' name changed five or six years ago, it's just plain Midwest now.

 

[stlflyguy]

Regardless, as the acquiring company Air Tran guys would be in control of the process. The only fair way to integrate (barring an agreement) would be through binding arbitration but we all know that won't happen. The Midwest guys are right to be leery of this merger/acquisition.

The great thing about this is ALPA is screwed if this deal happens. When I say "screwed" I mean that they're between a rock and a hard place.

1) If they "represent" the MidEx pilots to see a "fair and equitable" (notice the borrowed phrases) integration then they almost assuredly doom themselves at the hands of the suit brought upon ALPA National by the TWA pilots.

2) If they "fail to represent" the MidEx pilots, well, they probably have a great precedent setting case in the courts ahead of them--again--TWA pilots vs. ALPA.

If this merger happens it could be the best thing that ever happens to the former TWA pilots.

stlflyguy

 

[Kharma Police]

FYI whomever started this thread... Midwest Express' name changed five or six years ago, it's just plain Midwest now.

Sorry about that, would you prefer ValuJet?

 

[248to2.8]

FYI whomever started this thread... Midwest Express' name changed five or six years ago, it's just plain Midwest now.

Yes but isn't that supposed to be a 7-8 year process. The hanger still says express. Some of us are on the 8 year plan.

 

[EX_CV580FR8Dawg]

Yes but isn't that supposed to be a 7-8 year process. The hanger still says express. Some of us are on the 8 year plan.

ah...to be back in college!

 

[DonVerita]

Lets see..beach...scantily clad nubile, impressionable college girls...lots-o-bars...great food...on the other hand, crappy hotel...hmmm...which do I choose?...

RV

So you're saying that you like the location but hate the quality of the POS Comfort Inn hotel? Me too. What an absolute dump; and outside exterior room access on top of it all. Flat out UNSAT!

We could keep the location AND get better hotel quality if we would simply move to the Hilton Garden down the street.

Anybody got a problem with that? No. Good. Motion carried. Let's go.

 

[twepilot]

I'm with ya bro'..

RV

 

[Lear70]

There's 3 business quality hotels all right down the street. My morning run took me by all of them and I was thinking the same, exact thing.

Just like PHL. People complained about the hotel, although there was plenty of GREAT restaurant choices nearby and the van would take you downtown to play on those 20+ hour overnights.

Fine. There were 2 other hotels in close proximity, and there's 2 downtown that airlines use all the time (stayed in one with my last carrier).

Now we're 20+ hours in an Airport Comfort Inn product that is marginally better in hotel quality, but with absolutely NOTHING around it to do for 20 hours.

Great. Thanks to those who complained. I USED to pick those up out of open time. Now I have to bid away from the PHL overnights...

Be careful what you ask for; the company may just well give it to you.

 

[ATLDRVR]

Sorry, but I hated the PHL hotel. There were three restaurants and only two of them had ok food. The service at those restaurants was horrible and we all know why. Other than the restaurants what other good qualities did the hotel have?

I have not stayed at the new hotel so can't comment on it, but if it is near the airport and you want to go downtown then you can catch the train.

 

[Lear70]

I was thinking of the Houlihans.

I LOVE their food... one of my all-time favorite restaurants.

Yeah, service was so-so, but it's a lot better than the diner outside the Airport Comfort Inn. It's either that or walk over to the hotel inside the Renaissance for a $16 burger or tuna salad sandwich.

As far as amenities, I simply liked that the van would take you downtown if you wanted to go, as well as picking you up. The pool was nice, the workout room was just as good as any others (except the weight room in the MCO La Quinta Universal which is awesome for a hotel or the free Bally's across from the PHF Comfort Inn), and I never had any problems from them.

Can't please everyone I guess, but I just hate when people complain about a property that's really not all that bad then we get put somewhere that really sucks for 20+ hours. Diner food isn't exactly on my weight loss plan...

 

[-9Capt]

Lets see..beach...scantily clad nubile, impressionable college girls...lots-o-bars...great food...on the other hand, crappy hotel...hmmm...which do I choose?...

RV

The problem is you can say you'll overlook health/safety issues due to a hotels location. If that hotel was located in any other city, or 5 miles inland, we'd all be furious.

The unions argument for changing locations don't hold water if we say we'll put up with it here because there are chicks in g-strings, but not here, cause the scenery sucks.