Airtran - a warm welcome my friends

[Bake]

I'm more for getting laid! Ya'll can have my beer and nachos.

 

[asaflyer]

I've come to the conclusion that most folks who are trying to stir up crap between swa and AT don't even work for either one. It's not that hard to change your type list to show either a 73 or 717. Relax and think before you post guys. Don't try to defend yourself or position to a RJ driver. Happy flyin'.

 

[WNC Flyer]

Thanks for the welcome. The 717 is actually a DC-9-717. So there is no type difference between a 717 and a DC-9. The big stuff is actually very similar in both airplanes, its the cockpit and the automation that is different.

There's about a 0% chance that any current SWA pilot will fly the 717. Those guys will be fenced until the leases run out. Then they'll transition to the 737. Just imagine all the qual training that would have to be done if they had an equipment rebid after the SLI? Doesn't makes $en$e.

 

[DonVerita]

Yes Air Tran brings a lot to the table:

1. Aircraft
2. Routes
3. Gates

4 ??? There is not a 4 because SWA didn't buy the Air Tran employee's

Well well...I was wondering when you'd show up here Ronald. Still furloughed from NetJets? Trolling from your basement again.

Let me explain some common sense to you:

When Corp. A merges operations with Corp. B on Monday; Corp A must service that network or loose it. To keep that network humming, you do that with employee's from Corp. B. Follow me so far? Now since AirTran is a Major airline, which you probably still can't comprehend what that is, SWA can't just waive a magic wand and have AirTran re-staffed by Friday. That means that employees come over with their equipment. There is also a few regulatory items like Allegheny-Mohawk and Bond-McCaskill that come into play here. Google those two on your little Atari 800 and see what they mean.

So when AirTran merges with SWA, they don't come hat in hand. They bring a Major airline fleet of 137 Boeing jets, 50 firm orders and the professional union pilots to fly them alongside their new co-workers at SWA.

But there is even one more thing that they bring that is more powerful than either company could create by themselves: CRITICAL MASS. Yes, this one umbrella item is going to be what allows the combined carrier to survive and grow amid the mega carriers of Delta/NWA and United/CAL.

You on the other hand will still be a insignificant piss ant troll. Enjoy your new job as C-172 flight instructor.

 

[JT12345]

The stable is illegal. Congress made it so. And trying to do it round-a-bout leads to a judge ruling against you and other companies getting the award while bidding with less money.

These guys talking stable are jealous. .Period. They would love nothing more for us to suffer, and the deal to fall apart. They are probably shaking in their boots because we will be a force to deal with on the eastcoast. They r worried about their jobs. (btw, never stop worrying no matter who you work for).

This flamebait is a lure for you to spill your beans and expose your postion.

Say nothing.

 

[JT12345]

BTW,

To the OP. Thanks for the invite. I look forward to seeing old friends.

 

[Ty Webb]

The stable is illegal. . . . .These guys talking stable are jealous. .

Stable? What the hell do horses have to do with this? Do you have a cold or something?

 

[Ty Webb]

You will soon have them to brother. I apologize for getting heated. Gotta protect my current SWAPA brethren. We will all know soon enough. Cheers!!

I know you have to look out for your brothers. Vixin. My only concern is that if enough Pilots keep repeating the mantra that "AirTran's not bringing anything to the table" there are going to be a lot of guys that will have a hard time stomaching the SLI because they've convinced themselves that AirTran's not bringing anything to the table.

Southwest has proven itself to be a great airline, but it was getting to be a mature airline, with senior, more costly employees, and much of the low-hanging fruit (routes) had already been picked.

Now, they are getting nearly three dozen new destinations, losing a serious competitor, gaining access to the busiest airport in the world, gaining Caribbean and Mexico routes (Canada, eh?) plus 137 new(ish) airframes and the pilots to operate 'em. We are gonna ROCK!

Can I get an A-men! Hah!

Brutha Ty and the family Stone

 

[V1 ROT8]

AirTran was actively hiring and training pilots, with a class of 22 starting every month through March, when, suddenly, we stop hiring....

Are you sure this wasn't due to your attrition coming to a screeching halt?

 

[Ualexpress]

Attrition? What attrition? We may lose a few guys a month to places like Emirates or other foreign carriers, but definitely not 160 over the next 6 months. That was what was planned for new hire classes through March.

 

[OldManPilot]

My Negotiating Committee speaks for me!

 

[Frequency]

Auto Throttles?

I myself think that together we will be an awesome combination!

Changing the subject.. I heard two different rumors.

• SWA dont use Auto-Throttles.
• SWA disconnect their autothrottles below 10,000 FT..

Which one is true and why? We (AAI) land with autothrottles on 95% of the time, in fact our AOM recommends it.

 

[waveflyer]

Neither is true. ATs are operated normal- They are constantly broken on the -300's and most captains are too weak spined to write them up
;-)

 

[Ty Webb]

Are you sure this wasn't due to your attrition coming to a screeching halt?

Here's a thought-

Since you obviously don't know anything about AirTran's attrition rate, why not ask what it is, instead of assuming?

You might look like less of an ass.. . . . I'm just sayin' . . .

 

[ATLplt]

Here's a thought-

Since you obviously don't know anything about AirTran's attrition rate, why not ask what it is, instead of assuming?

You might look like less of an ass.. . . . I'm just sayin' . . .

But Ty, isn't that what FI is all about...spewing bullshizz about things you know nothing of??

I WISH we had some attrition at AirTran! I haven't moved up but maybe a few numbers in the last 2.5 years.

 

[Ty Webb]

But Ty, isn't that what FI is all about...spewing bullshizz about things you know nothing of??

Ty Webb . . . . Spewing bullshizz on FI since 1996 !! :beer:

 

[Fubijaakr]

The only way a staple is going to happen is if Air Tran pilots agree to it. Somehow I'm thinking that might be a non-starter at the negotiating table.

 

[ASADFW7]

Staple? What staple, and a rate for less than 122 seats separate from current pay rates at SWA, what? Wait a minute, hold on a second. When we sling around never be careful what we say will never happen. Lets keep it between the NC's and away from fear and absolutes.

 

[737tanker]

Neither is true. ATs are operated normal- They are constantly broken on the -300's and most captains are too weak spined to write them up
;-)

The reason that the ATs are constantly broken and not written up on the -300s and -500s is that they are permanently deactivated. You don't write something up if it has been deactivated. On the -700s we can use the ATs from takeoff until 50' AGL before landing.

 

[JT12345]

Stable? What the hell do horses have to do with this? Do you have a cold or something?

Actually I do have a bad cold. lol

They need to leave the edit option longer for people like me that rely on spell check and bouts with Dyslexia.

 

[waveflyer]

The reason that the ATs are constantly broken and not written up on the -300s and -500s is that they are permanently deactivated. You don't write something up if it has been deactivated. On the -700s we can use the ATs from takeoff until 50' AGL before landing.

Do you drink through a straw so you won't drool out the edge's of your mouth?

 

[slaquer5]

The reason that the ATs are constantly broken and not written up on the -300s and -500s is that they are permanently deactivated. You don't write something up if it has been deactivated. On the -700s we can use the ATs from takeoff until 50' AGL before landing.

OK , please tell me your joking the jokester. If not , you my brother are tighter than an 8 day clock.

 

[Nindiri]

How quickly are you replacing the -300's? Being the lazy bastich that I am, I can no longer fly without a magenta line.

 

[27 driver]

There's about a 0% chance that any current SWA pilot will fly the 717. Those guys will be fenced until the leases run out. Then they'll transition to the 737. Just imagine all the qual training that would have to be done if they had an equipment rebid after the SLI? Doesn't makes $en$e.

Some of us already have 73 types.

 

[Lear70]

Seriously, besides a few Tranny CAs, who among the combined group wouldn't be happy with a staple? Sheesh, talk about hitting the jackpot!

Put it to a vote. Staple or no deal, and I bet it would pass easily.

Good luck all!

Man, the broken record returns... and returns... and returns...

With the same message that will never fly... never fly... never fly...



Thanks for those sending the well wishes. Look forward to joining you on the line, no matter how the SLI goes. :beer:

 

[carl p]

some of us already have 73 types.

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