AirTran 737 Captains voting "NO"

[Fubijaakr]

I think the AAI pilots SHOULD vote it down. Unfortunately, with a gun to their head, most won't have the stones to stand up to the God King.

I'd LOVE to see the arbitrator jam DoH up your butt.

 

[dh82dvr]

A chance to root for a new team that might go to the SuperBowl...are you a Raiders, Bears or Ravens fan by chance? (I'm picking the Ravens to go all the way)

First of all, proper football (the kind without lots of pads and stopping to have someone figure out the nest move) is being played in NZ.


Secondly, I'm not rooting for any team, but whatever floats your boat as they say!!

 

[madjack]

most won't have the stones to stand up to the God King.

So the AAI pilots have no balls and the SWA guys are greedy...you must be perfect

 

[Fubijaakr]

Nope, but I do know the difference between right and wrong. Something you gave up when you paid $8K to get an interview.

 

[75cutter]

You boys are too funny. Love seeing your banter on how bad things are and how ALL have been (or about to be) screwed. Allow me to give a little insight. I'm a 20+ year captain at SWA and made over 260k last year. Not bad by most standards. I flew last week with a former USAir pilot with 18 years tenure. He told me he works less (12 days a month) and makes more money than he did at USair as a CAPTAIN !! Continue your bitching, it's fun to watch. I'm laughing all the way to the bank -as are SWA FO's. Second year average = 110K plus. Don't believe me - spend some time researching and less time ranting. The water is GOOD here at SWA!!

 

[Fubijaakr]

You SWA guys always toss your pay rate about. It reminds me of an old saying:

"Some people know the price of everything and the value of nothing."

Seriously, it makes you all sound like a bunch of nouveau riche pretenders at the country club. Its classless.

Glad you're making a ton now. How much were your captains making 20 years ago? That's why SWA was the LAST choice of employers then.

 

[flynvixen]

Really? Given the history of how Herbalife and his clone, the God King have treated other pilot groups? You should have at least recognized you were going to get raped just by what the F9 guys experienced.



Exactly. Career expectations for both sides are the same...737 CA. However, the arrogance of the SWA group won out.



But you're not part of the family. You were "Acquired, not Hired". You didn't pay the $5K for a 737 type rating to buy an interview. You're inferior. Obviously, you didn't recognize that.

You seriously need to bow down, face West, and genuflect to the God King while you get raped. And do it with a smile on your face, please.



There you have it. DoH would have totally negated this. But, BOTH of your groups are voting for it and BOTH of you will reap what you sow.

Remember the Law of Unintended Consequences...

You should have taken the first offer, with a smile .....but noooooo ALPA says we can screw the SWAPA guys more .......and now look what that got you .......you guys or at least your greedy ALAP over reached and demanded more than you were entitled to......ALPA met its match on this one .......I hope it spells the end of ALPA.......You guys just dont get the whole acquired not merged thing ......in the end the government should not be telling company's how to do things.......be thankful you have a job with a company that just gave you a big pay raise.....I come to work for the pay check not a seat position, if the money is right I dont care what seat I sit in, you guys act like you took a big pay cut, lost your seat and got stapled too.......GMAFB

 

[flynvixen]

You SWA guys always toss your pay rate about. It reminds me of an old saying:

"Some people know the price of everything and the value of nothing."

Seriously, it makes you all sound like a bunch of nouveau riche pretenders at the country club. Its classless.

Glad you're making a ton now. How much were your captains making 20 years ago? That's why SWA was the LAST choice of employers then.

20 years ago.......live in the now fool now look at who is the last choice.....up until just a few months ago.......Citrus anyone ?????

 

[humveedriver]

You should have taken the first offer, with a smile .....but noooooo ALPA says we can screw the SWAPA guys more .......and now look what that got you .......you guys or at least your greedy ALAP over reached and demanded more than you were entitled to......ALPA met its match on this one .......I hope it spells the end of ALPA.......You guys just dont get the whole acquired not merged thing ......in the end the government should not be telling company's how to do things.......be thankful you have a job with a company that just gave you a big pay raise.....I come to work for the pay check not a seat position, if the money is right I dont care what seat I sit in, you guys act like you took a big pay cut, lost your seat and got stapled too.......GMAFB

That dude works for Alaska. You could at least try to be relevant when you post.

 

[Fubijaakr]

That dude works for Alaska. You could at least try to be relevant when you post.

Exactly. That's why that whole "Hired, not acquired" argument is pure BS. Personally, I think the AAI guys would have been better served to torpedo this whole AIP sideshow and let the arbitrator decide.

Frankly, I believe in straight DoH in any merger, but look what the AWA guys accomplished by going for binding arbitration. They IMPROVED their seniority significantly by presenting a cogent argument to the arbitrator.

The Pickleballers went in and screamed "DOH" like a bunch of spoiled brats and look where it got them.

The SWA boys would have gone in and screamed "Hired, not acquired" and would have lost equally badly.

However, it looks like the majority of the AAI pilots are reacting to the God King putting a gun to their heads and will vote for this abortion.

Just an opinon, but a little steel in your sack at this point would probably pay huge dividends in the end.