AirTran 737 Captains voting "NO"

[Fubijaakr]

Agreed. What guy would choose a screen name like vixin?

 

[Mamma]

Agreed. What guy would choose a screen name like vixin?

What guy would choose "Mamma?" My loafers are pretty heavy though.

 

[SWA Bubba]

Are you kidding? He's the poster boy for SWA "culture."

Hey! There's another of those "blanket statements" you swore you hated. Surely, it must have been a minor oversight on your part. I'm almost certain that what you meant was, "that guy is a single, abberant example of the SWA cullture, which doesn't reflect on the SWA pilot group as a whole."

That's what you meant, right? By the way, no need to thank me; just looking out for you. That'sthe kinda' guy I am.

Bubba

 

[Fubijaakr]

Cool, Bubba. However, considering the trash most of your Canyon blue buddies spewed here, Sacka is an extreme example, but an example nonetheless.

 

[DonVerita]

You should have taken the first offer, with a smile .....but noooooo ALPA says we can screw the SWAPA guys more

Yet another blatently false statement from the master Hater on this board.

Just like in one of your earlier posts where you stated that most AAI guys had apps on file at SWA, you are full of crap. A handful did...mostly junior F/O's with little seniority. Some had put in apps many years ago back when they were at some Regional, but never updated or removed the app once they made it to a Major (AAI). So I'm sure you are using that skewed data as well to bolster your arrogant posture.

As for ALPA, they never said anything about "screw the SWAPA guys more". But you made that defamatory statement, so prove it. Go ahead, prove to all of us that ALPA said that. That is just more of your factless incendiary babbling that you use to stir the pot. ALPA wants fair and equitable. SWAPA wants to steal seniority and CA seats.

 

[slaquer5]

Yet another blatently false statement from the master Hater on this board.

Just like in one of your earlier posts where you stated that most AAI guys had apps on file at SWA, you are full of crap. A handful did...mostly junior F/O's with little seniority. Some had put in apps many years ago back when they were at some Regional, but never updated or removed the app once they made it to a Major (AAI). So I'm sure you are using that skewed data as well to bolster your arrogant posture.

As for ALPA, they never said anything about "screw the SWAPA guys more". But you made that defamatory statement, so prove it. Go ahead, prove to all of us that ALPA said that. That is just more of your factless incendiary babbling that you use to stir the pot. ALPA wants fair and equitable. SWAPA wants to steal seniority and CA seats.

So how did you vote Don?


Is this going to pass on the AT side ?

 

[RIDETHELIGHTING]

Yep, it will pass the AT side. By 75%+

 

[DonVerita]

So how did you vote Don?


Is this going to pass on the AT side ?

Voted NO.

But it will pass...because for many people, having a gun put to their head in the form of a threat (real or implied), is not a risk they are willing to take. The moment that happened, "negotiation" turned into "extortion".

 

[GuppyWN]

Don,

At least you're consistent! Hope someday you change your tune.

Gup

 

[Fubijaakr]

But it will pass...because for many people, having a gun put to their head in the form of a threat (real or implied), is not a risk they are willing to take. The moment that happened, "negotiation" turned into "extortion".

There you have it.

 

[PapaWoody]

Voted NO.

But it will pass...because for many people, having a gun put to their head in the form of a threat (real or implied), is not a risk they are willing to take. The moment that happened, "negotiation" turned into "extortion".

No offense intended, Don, but cry me a river. What your incendiary comments seem to want to discount is that the actions that Southwest Airlines Inc. have suggested may or may not happen are fully legal and within their rights as the acquiring company. Just as your actions, either to accept the offer and the accompanying vast increase in the financial value of your career or to reject the offer and assume the accompanying risk, are yours and yours alone to take. Southwest Inc. has showed you that actions have consequences, and according to even your lawyers, their actions are completely legal, so either accept the situation as it has been presented to you or go find another line of work. Feel free to whine about fair or not fair, but don't forget to cry all the way to the bank.

Respectfully,
PapaWoody

 

[BigMeat]

You bet your a$$ there are SWA guys that think this deal is unfair and you bet your a$$ I just voted NO. I cant wait to hear your ALPA talking points on how any of this BS sandwich is fair to any SWA guy.

Tell me what we got out of this deal ?? and please dont tell me ATL....I dont give a rats a$$ about ATL.

We acquired you, gave you a big pay raise, better everything and what do we get from you.......a loud typical ALPA NO we want more, we deserve more, we are entitled to more, we demand more........until the big smack down.

You fools are lucky to be here, dont forget during the Frontier deal you guys were begging for a staple now look at you. ALPA sold you down the river and cost you a bunch of $$$$$$$ and if your not careful it could be a bunch of jobs too.......good work ALPA.......you suck

To all the citrus guys and gals .......please vote NO

Can you say affirmative action?

 

[Dan Roman]

Sascha/flyvixen
I hope you guys keep your anger management problems in check when you go to work.

 

[maru657]

Vast increase in financial value of your career??? Not much increase if your furloughed.

 

[Fubijaakr]

Can you say affirmative action?

I think you have determined how Sacka AND Lyinvixin got there. If they even are....

Vast increase in financial value of your career??? Not much increase if your furloughed.

Or pink slipped when they dump the 717s. Just a thought, but we're hiring and AAI guys would be more than welcome.

 

[FDJ2]

Voted NO.

But it will pass...because for many people, having a gun put to their head in the form of a threat (real or implied), is not a risk they are willing to take. The moment that happened, "negotiation" turned into "extortion".

Exactly right. This isn't a negotiated agreement, its extortion from SWA and SWAPA. A truly fair process, with a fair seniority list is not what SWAPA wants, they want to steal seniority from their future co workers.

ATN pilots should not trust SWA and they should not trust SWAPA.

Before the two groups are fully integrated there will be section 6 negotiations, yet another opportunity for SWAPA to take another bite out of the ATN pilots.

The ATN should be careful of what they are signing away if they vote yes.

 

[PapaWoody]

Vast increase in financial value of your career??? Not much increase if your furloughed.

You mean like the last time that SWA furloughed?.....Oh, wait, that's right -- SWA has never furloughed. Unlike AAI, United, and Alaska, I might add. And there's nothing to indicate that they will in the future. However, the financial gains to your career once on the SWAPA master seniority list are tangible and significant. If you're going to throw out hypotheticals, at least try to base them upon the realities of the situation. And unfortunately, the reality of this situation is that SWA Inc. has every right to dispose of AAI in the manner that they see fit. Fortunately, they have given you another opportunity to be part of the family. The choice is up to you.

Respectfully,
PapaWoody

 

[madjack]

"but we're hiring and AAI guys would be more than welcome."

Of course that offer means you start at the BOTTOM of the list...

 

[SWA Bubba]

"but we're hiring and AAI guys would be more than welcome."

Of course that offer means you start at the BOTTOM of the list...

No, no, you have Fubi all wrong. I'm sure that if Alaska hired them, Fubi would insist they get their original DOH, even if that meant above him.

Bubba

 

[canyonblue]

...... but we're hiring and AAI guys would be more than welcome.

Oh yea Alaska. I think I'd rather have a car battery dropped on my nutsack.

 

[Whataburger]

Oh yea Alaska. I think I'd rather have a car battery dropped on my nutsack.

On the contrary, would you consider dropping you nutsack on a car battery?

I did that once in Mexico on Spring Break, and I highly recommend it.

It's a pretty neat deal where everyone that is holding onto your penis get shocked too! Best 10,000 pesos I've ever spent!!:beer:

 

[Sacha]

No, no, you have Fubi all wrong. I'm sure that if Alaska hired them, Fubi would insist they get their original DOH, even if that meant above him.

Bubba

Not good enough.....Relative seniority......that would put a lot more above Fudge....after all...it's only fair

Save the culture at Alaska....it's the same culture Petri-dish that produced Fudge....

 

[madjack]

"A truly fair process, with a fair seniority list is not what SWAPA wants, they want to steal seniority from their future co workers."

Uhh...i think that AAI seniority cease to exist when they were acquired by SWA and all the seniority loss has come from the SWA side...spin it whatever way you want...vote no and take a chance at arby/separate ops, that is what the sideline thinks, but they have no dog in this fight and it is easy for them to play loose with our futures...

 

[slaquer5]

Exactly right. This isn't a negotiated agreement, its extortion from SWA and SWAPA. A truly fair process, with a fair seniority list is not what SWAPA wants, they want to steal seniority from their future co workers.

ATN pilots should not trust SWA and they should not trust SWAPA.

Before the two groups are fully integrated there will be section 6 negotiations, yet another opportunity for SWAPA to take another bite out of the ATN pilots.

The ATN should be careful of what they are signing away if they vote yes.

It is always easy to give advise when you do not have skin in the game.


So who do you work for ?

or are you to embarrassed to say ?