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I do believe that most of the 58's are pre-84, could be wrong on a few though. Most of the radars are pretty good, although some only like to show you stuff when you are within about 2 miles of it...just enough time to look at it figure out a way around it and then realize by that time you have already flown through it.
All of the 310's are R models. The one good thing about the 310, if you can fly that you will have a good hand up in the lear... those tip tanks give a pretty good feel between the two. Just double the fuel weight in the tip and move it out another 6 feet and there ya go.
I do believe that most of the 58's are pre-84, could be wrong on a few though. Most of the radars are pretty good, although some only like to show you stuff when you are within about 2 miles of it...just enough time to look at it figure out a way around it and then realize by that time you have already flown through it.
All of the 310's are R models. The one good thing about the 310, if you can fly that you will have a good hand up in the lear... those tip tanks give a pretty good feel between the two. Just double the fuel weight in the tip and move it out another 6 feet and there ya go.
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I don't usually chime in on stupid stuff people say but I couldn't pass on the comment about 310 being smaller inside than a BE-58. I have MANY hours in both. The 310 is a gentleman's airplane. Roomy with great visibility. BE-58 is faster, but you can't see anything while taxiing. If you want to argue the visiblity issue, I can direct you to a couple pilots that now have accidents on their record because they thought they could see better. Don't get me wrong, both are great planes. It's like arguing are big boobs with big butt better than small boobs with small butt. They are just different. Although I'm a small butt kind of man.
Trainees are now (as of 2/10/04) assigned a base first week of training and are trained in that plane. You might get a caravan and never touch a baron. I just talked to a friend that is going though right now. He was trained in the caravan and chiefton. His first time demonstating his ablilty to fly was at Flight Safety in the Caravan full motion sim (ouch). He made it but sounds like there are more pleasurable things to do in life, like timing how long your butt hair will stay on fire.
They do try to hold you to the training contract of $7k if you leave. I'm not going to comment one way or the other about bailing from your contract early. You'll get mixed opinions about not paying it. If you get fired they DO NOT hold you to it.
Initial ground training is done really well at this company. They go back and show you the right way to fly. You do need to be a quick learner because they are not there to teach you. But they will work with you a reasonable amount to get you up to speed. I "heard" that pass rates are up around 70-80% right now. Training is not hard just extremely stressful.
Bases are assigned to trainees (not hired until you finished your checkride) by whatever is available that wasn't bid. There are some great runs that don't get bid because people don't want to move. It's a total crap shoot. Once you get a base, you can bid other runs within that base. At the end of the year, you bid out to another base and another plane. I agree it sucks, but I have to agree with the seat locking. But I don't agree with the base locking. We are also hiring a TON of people. Washka just sent out a note in the bi-weekly memo talking about how many pilots we are going to be hiring. I heard on Thursday we are 16 people short right now, and people are still leaving to go to the regionals and majors that are hiring. We are also expanding like crazy on the charter side (Jetrides) with Lear 60's coming about as fast as they can train guys.
It really is a great company to work for. It's a good place to pay off the loans we all racked up learning to fly. I've been here 2 and a half years. Nights suck but the company is great. If you get hired and feel pushed to meet your deadlines, just slow down so you don't do anything stupid. Most guys that get fired have about 5-6 months with the company. Right when they start to get comfortable, they do something stupid. Like taxiing into something, or thinking you can stay up all day and fly that night, or being in too much of a hurry. You must move with a purpose but an extra 10 sec taxiing is not going to make a difference.
Trainees are now (as of 2/10/04) assigned a base first week of training and are trained in that plane. You might get a caravan and never touch a baron. I just talked to a friend that is going though right now. He was trained in the caravan and chiefton. His first time demonstating his ablilty to fly was at Flight Safety in the Caravan full motion sim (ouch). He made it but sounds like there are more pleasurable things to do in life, like timing how long your butt hair will stay on fire.
They do try to hold you to the training contract of $7k if you leave. I'm not going to comment one way or the other about bailing from your contract early. You'll get mixed opinions about not paying it. If you get fired they DO NOT hold you to it.
Initial ground training is done really well at this company. They go back and show you the right way to fly. You do need to be a quick learner because they are not there to teach you. But they will work with you a reasonable amount to get you up to speed. I "heard" that pass rates are up around 70-80% right now. Training is not hard just extremely stressful.
Bases are assigned to trainees (not hired until you finished your checkride) by whatever is available that wasn't bid. There are some great runs that don't get bid because people don't want to move. It's a total crap shoot. Once you get a base, you can bid other runs within that base. At the end of the year, you bid out to another base and another plane. I agree it sucks, but I have to agree with the seat locking. But I don't agree with the base locking. We are also hiring a TON of people. Washka just sent out a note in the bi-weekly memo talking about how many pilots we are going to be hiring. I heard on Thursday we are 16 people short right now, and people are still leaving to go to the regionals and majors that are hiring. We are also expanding like crazy on the charter side (Jetrides) with Lear 60's coming about as fast as they can train guys.
It really is a great company to work for. It's a good place to pay off the loans we all racked up learning to fly. I've been here 2 and a half years. Nights suck but the company is great. If you get hired and feel pushed to meet your deadlines, just slow down so you don't do anything stupid. Most guys that get fired have about 5-6 months with the company. Right when they start to get comfortable, they do something stupid. Like taxiing into something, or thinking you can stay up all day and fly that night, or being in too much of a hurry. You must move with a purpose but an extra 10 sec taxiing is not going to make a difference.
I am assuming that the first part of that quote is directed at me. Notice that I did stipulate that the rudder peddels should be down. Also with an autopilot you are free to get a bit more comfortable than a 310 would allow you since it does not have an a/p. I too have many hour in both.208starcheck said:
I am not sure about a baron being faster, especially in a climb. I can keep a 310 at 1000 feet per min up to 9000' easily. No I am not climbing at blue line. Try that in a baron it wont come close. My ground speeds seem faster in a 310 once I get to altitude also. I have heard that the tip tanks actually cut down on the induced drag, and the location of the engine intakes at the wing root rather than in the cowling (on a baron) keeps the mp higher when at alt.
You are right about visibility, you cant see sh!t in a baron. You sit alot higher above the inst panal in a 310, that helps.
In the end it is like be big butt/boob argument. It is a matter of taste. I have it and you dont!!!!
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ALL A/C BASHING ASIDE...
WE NEED PEOPLE BADLY, APPLY NOW! I'M BEING STHRECHED BY THE COMPANY RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY ARE MOVING TWO PROP RUNS ELSEWHERE TO COVER FOR LACK OF PILOTS. MY DAY WENT FROM EASY TO 5 DAYS A WEEK AND A 12 HOUR DUTY DAY TO COVER THOSE TWO RUNS WHICH THEY MOVED. THEY SAY IT IS ONLY TEMPORARY UNTIL THEY CAN GET ENOUGH PILOTS TO FILL THE VACANCIES SO HURRY UP AND GET ON BOARD ALREADY!!!!!!!!
Anyway, everybody please apply, help a brotha' out. We really do need lots of pilots.
WE NEED PEOPLE BADLY, APPLY NOW! I'M BEING STHRECHED BY THE COMPANY RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY ARE MOVING TWO PROP RUNS ELSEWHERE TO COVER FOR LACK OF PILOTS. MY DAY WENT FROM EASY TO 5 DAYS A WEEK AND A 12 HOUR DUTY DAY TO COVER THOSE TWO RUNS WHICH THEY MOVED. THEY SAY IT IS ONLY TEMPORARY UNTIL THEY CAN GET ENOUGH PILOTS TO FILL THE VACANCIES SO HURRY UP AND GET ON BOARD ALREADY!!!!!!!!
Anyway, everybody please apply, help a brotha' out. We really do need lots of pilots.
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The wands have more to do with people who are both non company and not pilots of an approved airline. Pilots from approved airlines are allowed to jump.generaltso said:
The approved airlines are: ACA, Airtran, ATA, Mesa, PSA, Shuttle America, Skyway, Southwest, and USA 3000. So the recip agreement has not been affected
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deadstick...
I have no idea what bases are short, but any base flying for us is better than not having a job (or instructing ).
All of our original airlines are still taking us... they understand that it is not our fault and only the TSA that is limiting us. Wands have nothing to do with jumpseaters right now, we must be able to verify employment and run a SS# check with the TSA. So for now only certain airlines are allowed to ride.
I have no idea what bases are short, but any base flying for us is better than not having a job (or instructing
). All of our original airlines are still taking us... they understand that it is not our fault and only the TSA that is limiting us. Wands have nothing to do with jumpseaters right now, we must be able to verify employment and run a SS# check with the TSA. So for now only certain airlines are allowed to ride.
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