Airnet challengers

[FL717]

I guess those Lear captains who have recently been hired at SWA have no people skills?. Get fukcing real folks, this is a complete disgrace with regards to not taking people from within the Airnet senority list and allowing them to upgrade into these airplanes. The whole argument that I have read thus far is comical at best and has no bearing on these guys being able to get the job done first class. First dibs should be given to those who are already on the senority list and who have paid their dues.
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There is two completely different arguments here, and you attempt to justify both by lumping them together, and in fact they are completely opposing and unrelated.

First... I agree that if I were a current pilot at AirNet I would be p!ssed as well. I naturally would not be happy that off-the-street pilots were filling a positon in a company that I would like to have.

Second... that being said, your comparison to a Lear Driver being hired at SWA as proof to your lumped argument is a complete irrelevant point. If you truely believe that comparison, then I believe there is a lack of understanding you have in regards to 121 "Bus Drivers" versus a 135 "Limo/Taxi Drivers".

Because a frieght dawg can go to a Pax 121 Airline, and successfully wave hello/goodbye to passengers, gives absolutely no creedance whether they will be able to effectively interact face-to-face with direct "clients". It also says nothing about ones "customer service skills". If you have never flown as a "full service" on demand charter, you may not get this. If you have then this should be a "no-brainer" discussion for you.

Big difference, and many pilots of all backgrounds will make that jump easily, others cannot and never will. Its all about people, social, and catering skills... not pilot skills. Some of these skills cannot be effectively taught or accomplished. I'm sure you've flown with pilots of all backgrounds that you know fit this picture I paint.

So.... back at AirNet, they start this new On-Demand project that everyone wants to grow and be successful. How do you sort them (Pilots) out?

I believe that this is a AirNet/Pilots problem and a fleet transfer referral program should be implemented so that those that have that ability can... and do. I hope they get this done, as it is a waste of some real talent and experience they have in their pilot ranks.

 

[DirkkDiggler]

Big difference, and many pilots of all backgrounds will make that jump easily, others cannot and never will. Its all about people, social, and catering skills... not pilot skills. Some of these skills cannot be effectively taught or accomplished. I'm sure you've flown with pilots of all backgrounds that you know fit this picture I paint.

So.... back at AirNet, they start this new On-Demand project that everyone wants to grow and be successful. How do you sort them (Pilots) out?

You don't think a simple interview process would work? That's what they currently have but they only interview outsiders. As a former Airnet pilot I can tell you that there are at least 100 pilots on the freight side of things that would have fine customer service skill in a charter operation. And Airnet already knows that they can fly the aircraft! It's B.S. politics plain and simple.

 

[FL717]

You don't think a simple interview process would work? That's what they currently have but they only interview outsiders. As a former Airnet pilot I can tell you that there are at least 100 pilots on the freight side of things that would have fine customer service skill in a charter operation. And Airnet already knows that they can fly the aircraft! It's B.S. politics plain and simple.

Did you read my post??

Please re-read my last two sentences. I'm on your side... I just disagree with the post of the person I quoted earlier.

 

[DirkkDiggler]

No harm done.

 

[Guillotine007]

If I were an Airnet pilot present day I would be just a tad outraged. 3 5 0

if you were an airnet pilot, that would be towards the bottom of your list of things upsetting you.

 

[SCT]

I know one of the guys who was hired into the 604 for Airnet. He is a retired chief pilot from a large 91 department in OH. The guy has a ton of Gstream, Challenger and international time. Is the ac used for 135 charter or the Airnet owner's personal ac?

Also, what is happening at Airnet with the new federal banking rules?

 

[uscpilot]

I asked Craig Washka and Matt Goulet (sp??) why we werent putting Airnet people into the Challangers. They told me that Airnet does not own the Challangers, rather they are managing them for the owner. The owner is calling the shots with regards to who is hired. In one case the a/c is coming with its own crew. It is an apples to oranges comparison lear to challanger. Airnet owns the 60's.
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[$$$4nothin]

Thats what we get

Look this is what we get for not having a pilot union. A bogus seniority list. Where was the FAC on this one